antistuff 0 Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 you all told me i go to showdown too much. i think i found where. i bet bet check with under pairs and unimproved overcards way too much when there is a good chance im beat. villian is like 35/6/.85folds to villian in co who raisesi three bet on buttonflop(7.5 sb)4d, ac, jhvillian checksi betvillian callsturn(4.25bb)3svillian checksi checkriver(4.25bb)8cvillian betsi raisevillian calls----------villian is 26/17/2, but over an incredibly small rangefolds to villian in mp2 who raisesi three bet from coeveryone else foldsflop Tc, Js, 2she checks i bet he callsturn qc he checks i checkriver 2dhe checks i check what do you think if he bets the river? Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 Hand 1:Looks good. Are you calling a river bet UI?Hand 2:I think I'm betting the river once I'm checked to.- Zach Link to post Share on other sites
antistuff 0 Posted April 19, 2006 Author Share Posted April 19, 2006 Hand 1:Looks good. Are you calling a river bet UI?A week ago I would have. Now I look at the pot size, think about my opponent, and refuse to let myself be value bet by a fish here. Hand 2:I think I'm betting the river once I'm checked to.- ZachEh. The only hands he is calling with that I beat are small pairs. He is also never folding a better hand.And I think my question about the river on this hand was stupid, its an easy fold if he bets. Link to post Share on other sites
Wingmaster05 0 Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 Hand 1:Looks good. Are you calling a river bet UI?Hand 2:I foldI think I'm betting the river once I'm checked to.- ZachNo, i don't expect enough duece's or ace high to call in this pot. Link to post Share on other sites
pokerplayer24 0 Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 Hand one bet the turn. You might fold 1010 or 99 and it sucks giving a hand like KQ which has 10 outs a free card. This type of opponent isnt going to bluff with a checkraise so the hand is easy to play.Also checking and folding the river UI would suck.Hand 2 I bet the turn. Sure the board sucks but he can have all sorts of nonsense. Sucks Giving Kx or Ax a free card. Link to post Share on other sites
antistuff 0 Posted April 20, 2006 Author Share Posted April 20, 2006 Hand one bet the turn. You might fold 1010 or 99 and it sucks giving a hand like KQ which has 10 outs a free card. This type of opponent isnt going to bluff with a checkraise so the hand is easy to play.Also checking and folding the river UI would suck.Hand 2 I bet the turn. Sure the board sucks but he can have all sorts of nonsense. Sucks Giving Kx or Ax a free card.How bad can giving free cards really be in pots this small when we are behind a pretty good precent of the time? Link to post Share on other sites
cdddc75 0 Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 anyone else fold both hands to the preflop raises?i want 88 in a cheap multiway pot, not in an expensive HU pot. Link to post Share on other sites
amarillotg 0 Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 anyone else fold both hands to the preflop raises?i want 88 in a cheap multiway pot, not in an expensive HU pot.88 is way to strong to fold, especially to lp open raises. calling sucks because you're giving the blinds a good price to come in and mid pp's don't fair well multi-way.raising isolates the initial raiser, gives you a ton of fold equity.pretty standard raise imo. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 88 is way to strong to fold, especially to lp open raises. calling sucks because you're giving the blinds a good price to come in and mid pp's don't fair well multi-way.raising isolates the initial raiser, gives you a ton of fold equity.pretty standard raise imo.Plus we have the button... I looooove the button... Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 Playing 88 here depends on the raiser.The stats of these two indicate either loose or lag enough to make the 3-bet correct.Some players I'd fold against.Calling would not be good.I was thinking to Bet/Fold both turns as well Link to post Share on other sites
antistuff 0 Posted April 21, 2006 Author Share Posted April 21, 2006 Playing 88 here depends on the raiser.The stats of these two indicate either loose or lag enough to make the 3-bet correct.Some players I'd fold against.Calling would not be good.I was thinking to Bet/Fold both turns as wellWhy? To get him to fold better hands or to call with worse? Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 Why? To get him to fold better hands or to call with worse?I was on auto-pilot.I have no idea why... It's probably wrong.Limit is hard. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 ok...Han1: Betting turn: May fold a better PP, charge Kx. Easy fold if raised. Take free SD.Hand 2: W/o an ace, he has a tough call to make. Also, you have no SD value, so I'd like to get a better hand to fold here.as played, river is easy fold if he bets Link to post Share on other sites
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