7 replies to this topic

[zimmer4141]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: Bet The Pot)

MP3 (t1840)
CO (t1240)
Hero (t1470)
SB (t1610)
BB (t1400)
UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1440)
MP1 (t1500)
MP2 (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is Button with [Jd], [Kd].
4 folds, MP3 raises to t60, CO calls t60, Hero calls t60, 1 fold, BB calls t40.

Flop: (t250) [5c], [Jc], [Th] (4 players)
BB checks, MP3 checks, CO checks, Hero bets t120, BB calls t120, MP3 folds, CO folds.

Turn: (t490) [Jh] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t240, BB calls t240.

River: (t970) [7c] (2 players)
BB bets t250, Hero calls t250.

Final Pot: t1470

I guess the main street in question is the river. Basically every draw hit except KQ, not sure if this is a fold I have to make. 4th hand in, so no reads at all at this point.

[Petoria]

I know I'd call, but I'm stubborn.

Could easily be a blocking bet with a worse J or maybe below that.

Tough situation.

[gobears]

This is similar to a "reverse math" play that Paul Phillips made against Daniel in a tourney.

He bet small with nothing on the river figuring that Daniel would view it as an obvious value bet and fold the best hand which DN did. Works better against good players obviously

As for this hand, I'd have to call just to see which draw he hit.

[copernicus]

can he be bluffing 25% of the time? Could he be bluffing less but also playing a weaker J and was afraid to bet it?

I think its a crying call, but I think there are problems on the flop and the turn.

On the flop youre giving draws 3:1 odds and looking somewhat weak. It wouldnt be unreasonable to assume that if my draw doesnt hit on the turn you arent going to charge an exorbitant price to see the river.

In fact on the turn you did give him 3:1 odds, basically fair odds for a 12 outer, eg Ax clubs.

I would have bet 3/4 pot or more on the flop. I would push the turn under either line. Your set is good, if he wants to bet his tourney on a 3:1, let him.

[zimmer4141]

Basically my bet on the flop was mostly a feeler bet, I wasn't sure if someone was slowplaying a monster that they hit, so I wanted to put a small bet out there, then fold if I got checkraised on the flop. I obviously was betting both to gain value and make draws pay on the turn, as I was 90% sure I had the best hand. The river fills every draw except KQ, but I thought there was still a decent chance he was either value betting a weaker J or bluffing with KQ.

BTW, he had 98o for the river straight.

[Actuary]

why would you fear a monster on the flop?
And just make a feeler bet on a pretty draw happy flop?

I call the river too.. in part because I did not represent a strong hand and lots of worse hands may be taknig shots.

[ErikVegas]

why would you fear a monster on the flop?
And just make a feeler bet on a pretty draw happy flop?

I call the river too.. in part because I did not represent a strong hand and lots of worse hands may be taknig shots.

I agree here what made you think someone flopped a monster? Best possible hand is 2-pair a 4 flush or an oesd. Your flop and turn bets should have been BIG. Pot sized on the flop.....all in on the turn. If they still call and hit their draw thats tough luck but you gave them way too good of odds with your small bets for you to not get called. Yeah beting heavy on the flop or the turn may cost you a few bets but under betting the flop and the turn cost you the whole pot.

Erik

[doublemeup]

I might have to pay that off but I can easily see a fold.