Fubar The Sperm 1 Posted April 16, 2006 Share Posted April 16, 2006 Seriously. Jagre who? Link to post Share on other sites
InsanityCubed 0 Posted April 16, 2006 Share Posted April 16, 2006 No. He may be good, he may have taken his (new) team into the playoffs, but Jagr has done it for the whole season. No contest in my mind. Link to post Share on other sites
gruven 530 Posted April 16, 2006 Share Posted April 16, 2006 I still think Jagr wins it but Thornton was actually playing well for Boston when he was traded. He was averaging less than .1 of a point per game less in Boston than he is in SJ.... Link to post Share on other sites
Bubba83 0 Posted April 16, 2006 Share Posted April 16, 2006 If the Sharks were on the east coast there is no doubt in my mind Thornton would win MVP. But they will give it to Jagr, total joke. Link to post Share on other sites
Fubar The Sperm 1 Posted April 16, 2006 Author Share Posted April 16, 2006 Jagr had a better cast of players. Lundquist, his linemates Nylander and Straka. The reigning plus minus champion Marek Malik. Thornton came to a team with struggling goaltending and only Marleau playing well. Link to post Share on other sites
WestcoastCanuck 0 Posted April 16, 2006 Share Posted April 16, 2006 There are three strong candidates: Jagr, Thronton, Kipper. Anoy of those three could win it without anyone being robbed. Link to post Share on other sites
runthemover 40 Posted April 16, 2006 Share Posted April 16, 2006 There are three strong candidates: Jagr, Thronton, Kipper. Any of those three could win it without anyone being robbed. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 Jagr had a better cast of players. Lundquist, his linemates Nylander and Straka. The reigning plus minus champion Marek Malik. Thornton came to a team with struggling goaltending and only Marleau playing well.Cheechoo was no chump before Thornton showed up. Link to post Share on other sites
Fubar The Sperm 1 Posted April 17, 2006 Author Share Posted April 17, 2006 Cheechoo was no chump before Thornton showed up.Cheecho was not playing that well before Thornton came though. He's no chump but his game turned around a lot with Joe there. Link to post Share on other sites
nell789 0 Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 I think the real question is who do I take as the first pick in the FCHL playoff draft? Very tough decision. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 I think the real question is who do I take as the first pick in the FCHL playoff draft? Very tough decision.Heatley Link to post Share on other sites
goose 0 Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 I'd take Shannahan Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 I'd take ShannahanI'm certain Fenxis will keep him. Link to post Share on other sites
Fenxis 99 Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 I'm certain Fenxis will keep him.Indeed. Right now I'm looking into how to clone him 2x for all my keeper slots Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 Cheechoo was no chump before Thornton showed up.He wasn't a chump, but he's also nearly doubled his production playing with Thornton. No one but *no one* was mentioning Jonathan Cheechoo as a candidate for the Maurice Richard trophy pre or mid season, and now it's looking like he may run away with it.HeatleyYeah, depending on who the Rangers face in the 1st round it's either Heatley or Jagr. You have to go with the guy who's team is most likely to advance. Congrats to the playoffs teams BTW, I hate you all...:supremely jealous face: Link to post Share on other sites
nell789 0 Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 HeatleyYeah, he was third on my list closely tied with Staal.You guys wouldn't even consider Thornton? He's easily the hottest player (besides maybe Cheechoo) on one of the hottest teams right now. Momentum doesn't mean anything? Ottawa is playing terribly right now...I think I might just roll a dice, I suck at making tough decisions like this. Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 Yeah, he was third on my list closely tied with Staal.You guys wouldn't even consider Thornton? He's easily the hottest player (besides maybe Cheechoo) on one of the hottest teams right now. Momentum doesn't mean anything? Ottawa is playing terribly right now...I think I might just roll a dice, I suck at making tough decisions like this.It looks like you'll be protecting Straka, Zetterburg, and Dallas (at least I would), so you're already ahead of the game with 3 excellent forwards. You need to use your first few picks on players who are at least 75% to see the second round. That means taking Heatley over Thornton, IMO. Nashville hasn't even blinked with the loss of Vokoun (granted they haven't really played anyone, Detroit tomorrow night will speak volumes), making San Jose's 1st round matchup a tough one. Ottawa figures to walk all over Montreal or Tampa, whomever they face and breeze into the 2nd round.Heatley's been my bread and butter all season, and I'd take him 1st overall in a heartbeat if it was up to me. Link to post Share on other sites
nell789 0 Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 It looks like you'll be protecting Straka, Zetterburg, and Dallas (at least I would), so you're already ahead of the game with 3 excellent forwards. You need to use your first few picks on players who are at least 75% to see the second round. That means taking Heatley over Thornton, IMO. Nashville hasn't even blinked with the loss of Vokoun (granted they haven't really played anyone, Detroit tomorrow night will speak volumes), making San Jose's 1st round matchup a tough one. Ottawa figures to walk all over Montreal or Tampa, whomever they face and breeze into the 2nd round.Heatley's been my bread and butter all season, and I'd take him 1st overall in a heartbeat if it was up to me.I was planning on taking Tanguay over Straka, but I may re-think that and actually keep Stillman instead. Straka has cooled off since February, and Colorado probably won't make it passed the first round. My strategy that I've been thinking about so far has been take the best players available regardless of what team they're on, and then worry about the second round IF I get there. And that would mean taking Jagr or Thornton. The other thing is that I really think we may see a lot of upsets this year, as I think the league is as competitive as ever, so no team is gauranteed to go through IMO.So I'm still not sure who I'll pick, the only thing I am certain of is that I am going to torture myself between now and Wednesday evening.And to sorry for hijacking this thread to whoever's thread it was. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 Yeah, he was third on my list closely tied with Staal.You guys wouldn't even consider Thornton? He's easily the hottest player (besides maybe Cheechoo) on one of the hottest teams right now. Momentum doesn't mean anything? Ottawa is playing terribly right now...I think I might just roll a dice, I suck at making tough decisions like this.Goals are worth twice as much as assists. Link to post Share on other sites
nell789 0 Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 Goals are worth twice as much as assists.I know, and because of that I think I'll take Jagr if they're playing Philly (instead of red-hot new jersey), and if not, then Heatley. Link to post Share on other sites
sinc 0 Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 It looks like you'll be protecting Straka, Zetterburg, and Dallas (at least I would), so you're already ahead of the game with 3 excellent forwards. You need to use your first few picks on players who are at least 75% to see the second round. That means taking Heatley over Thornton, IMO. Nashville hasn't even blinked with the loss of Vokoun (granted they haven't really played anyone, Detroit tomorrow night will speak volumes), making San Jose's 1st round matchup a tough one. Ottawa figures to walk all over Montreal or Tampa, whomever they face and breeze into the 2nd round.Heatley's been my bread and butter all season, and I'd take him 1st overall in a heartbeat if it was up to me.Ottawa will breeze past Montreal? Huh? Montreal split the season series with them, have won two in a row vs them, have 2 very hot goalies. Theyve won what 12 of 15. Ottawa is playing with their hurt backup goalie. If Ottawa is your lock of the first round, I wouldnt go looking for a bookeeping job in vegas. Now dont get me wrong, I'm not saying Montreal is a lock in the 1st round... but I sure as hell wouldn't want to play them. Link to post Share on other sites
DanielNegreanu 141 Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 In our AHL pool the question was asked who was the MVP of the AHL season and I said Thorton. I'll say it again here. The definition of MVP is what he did this season for San Jose. Without him, no shot at the playoffs. With him, a legit shot at the whole thing. Jagr has been awesome too, but you can credit Lundqvist and the defense for a lot of the Rangers success this season. I say Thorton is the nuts... Link to post Share on other sites
kilgoretrout 0 Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 In our AHL pool the question was asked who was the MVP of the AHL season and I said Thorton. I'll say it again here. The definition of MVP is what he did this season for San Jose. Without him, no shot at the playoffs. With him, a legit shot at the whole thing. Jagr has been awesome too, but you can credit Lundqvist and the defense for a lot of the Rangers success this season. I say Thorton is the nuts...What about Kipper, I'm not sure if what he has done for the flames is more deserving of the MVP award than what thorton has done in SJ, but it has to be close. Link to post Share on other sites
Pilla 0 Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 jagr with out a question he is without a dought the best player in the world he took a team that preseason was supposed to finish dead last and turned them into a serious threat despite the NHL wanting the Rangers to fail. Link to post Share on other sites
nell789 0 Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 jagr with out a question he is without a dought the best player in the world he took a team that preseason was supposed to finish dead last and turned them into a serious threat despite the NHL wanting the Rangers to fail. could you explain this? I disagree completely. Link to post Share on other sites
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