Abbaddabba 0 Posted April 15, 2006 Share Posted April 15, 2006 Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: Bet The Pot)Preflop: Hero is SB with [9h], [7h]. UTG calls, 2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 raises, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls.Flop: (16 SB) [6c], [Js], [9d] (7 players)Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, MP2 bets, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button folds, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG folds, MP1 calls.Turn: (10.50 BB) [4h] (5 players)Hero checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, MP2 bets, MP3 calls, Hero calls, BB calls, MP1 folds.River: (14.50 BB) [3h] (4 players)Hero checks, BB checks, MP2 bets, MP3 folds, Hero calls, BB folds.Final Pot: 16.50 BB Everyone is an unknown because im writing an essay.Peel the flop getting like, 18:1.Turn is innocent enough, and im getting 12.5:1At showdown with second pair getting 15.5:1Im not at all accustomed to playing in these huge multi way pots.... this is straight outta the micro's. The post flop play i see at a lot of casinos is starting to make more sense, even if their preflop play is moronic.What can you do differently here, really?I guess under certain circumstances, you could justify raise/folding the river. Maybe if the pot was 5 big bets larger, and i had some sort of a read on MP2 to suggest that he'd bet ace high unimproved the whole way reliably. (really, that's what im banking on here with the call, i guess) Link to post Share on other sites
looshle 6 Posted April 15, 2006 Share Posted April 15, 2006 I'd probably c/r the flop and find out where the hell I'm at. Make it 2 cold to the 2 guys behind you who are worried about the preflop raiser yet to react behind them.You get a better 9, TT, and some weak jacks to fold here often enough to make it worthwhile, as well as the opportunity to thin the field against a guy who might have AK, KQ, or AQ.If he 3 bets, I'd probably just peel one off and c/f U/I. Link to post Share on other sites
Abbaddabba 0 Posted April 16, 2006 Author Share Posted April 16, 2006 If im 3bet, i cant just peel and fold the turn. The pot will be too big. The only turn that i can fold is one that pairs the J or the 6.I'd be getting 12:1 + implied odds with a hand that's almost always drawing to 5 cards (or more if my BD draws connect).PS: jacks virtually never fold this flop. Link to post Share on other sites
looshle 6 Posted April 16, 2006 Share Posted April 16, 2006 Either way I think you have to c/r the flop, I didnt figure the pot size out but you are right, it is alot bigger than I thought.Decent jacks arent going anywhere but TT and a 9 SHOULD fold for 2 bets cold on the flop. Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted April 16, 2006 Share Posted April 16, 2006 Either way I think you have to c/r the flop, I didnt figure the pot size out but you are right, it is alot bigger than I thought.Decent jacks arent going anywhere but TT and a 9 SHOULD fold for 2 bets cold on the flop.on the button i raise this flop, but CR'ing only narrows the pot down to 4 or 5 people. so they might be making mistakes equity-wise, but effectively we're just paying an extra bet to get to showdown, which is a significant goal in such a huge pot when our hand has value.none of it is pretty of course, but i don't think a raise is correct on any streets, except perhaps the river since you aren't closing the action. i'd need some sort of read though getting 15 to 1 or so. Link to post Share on other sites
The Nuts 0 Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 With that many people in the pot, I'm going to showdown with as little as two overcards with the hope that they improve. To get those overcards out, check-raising the flop is a must. If you bet, everybody will call including players with two overcards. Link to post Share on other sites
Wingmaster05 0 Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) Everyone is an unknown because im writing an essay.did writing your essay also encourage you to sit in on a 2/4 table and miss out on your cash cow (3/6 or 5/10, i can't rmember which you were destroying)? Link to post Share on other sites
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