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#1 Zach6668

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Posted 10 April 2006 - 06:25 PM

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cxPreflop: Hero is MP1 with J :club:, A :D. 1 fold, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, Hero raises, MP2 calls, 5 folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls.Flop: (9.50 SB) 9 :D, 6 :), J :) (4 players)UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero bets, MP2 calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds.Turn: (6.25 BB) K :) (3 players)UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, MP2 calls, UTG+1 folds.River: (8.25 BB) Q :D (2 players)Hero checks with the intention of calling.Just checking up, turn bet is standard? River c/c standard?- Zach
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#2 Moneyball16

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Posted 10 April 2006 - 08:49 PM

I do everything the same up till the river when I think b/f or c/f are better lines. Not sure which one I choose though. I dont think we are beating enough hands to c/c.

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Posted 11 April 2006 - 12:03 AM

I need a read on river play.Generally though, we are a bigger underdog here when we call than when he calls, unless you know him to be particularly bluff happy, or too tight to hold on to a lot of worse hands all the way.

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Posted 11 April 2006 - 03:29 AM

Unless villian is a LAG, you should just grit your teeth and bet/fold this river.

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Posted 11 April 2006 - 08:02 AM

View PostActuary, on Tuesday, April 11th, 2006, 4:03 AM, said:

I need a read on river play.Generally though, we are a bigger underdog here when we call than when he calls, unless you know him to be particularly bluff happy, or too tight to hold on to a lot of worse hands all the way.
Sorry, villain had the dice picture, but he seemed a lot more LPP than that.
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Posted 11 April 2006 - 09:32 AM

View PostMoneyball16, on Monday, April 10th, 2006, 8:49 PM, said:

I do everything the same up till the river when I think b/f or c/f are better lines. Not sure which one I choose though. I dont think we are beating enough hands to c/c.
C/f would never be an option on this river.Vs a passive I bet/fold vs an aggro I check/call.

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Posted 11 April 2006 - 01:40 PM

View Postpokerplayer24, on Tuesday, April 11th, 2006, 11:32 AM, said:

C/f would never be an option on this river.Vs a passive I bet/fold vs an aggro I check/call.
What hands could he have that we are beating? Plus when the villain takes this line I think It is more likely that he isnt an aggressive player.

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Posted 11 April 2006 - 01:56 PM

with a read of Passive Post flopI c/f, as well.He's not betting enough hands we beat and there are just so few he'll call with, that I want to hope for a free SD.I expect he won't bet 22-55, 6x, 77-88, 9x enough to lose sleep over the times I fold.And I think he has those hands a small percentage of the time..that we are behind when called, a lot.

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Posted 11 April 2006 - 08:29 PM

Anyone who remembers me at all is probably aware of my constant tantrums about people who bet/fold a lot, but I think this is probably a bet/fold situation. If he's reliably passive, I check and await the inevitable bet that means villian's got me smoked like one of those little baby hot dog things that my mom puts in the crock pot.Man, being hungover, hungry, and out of food just sucks. I think I'm gonna order some Jimmy John's, pushing my sub total (submarine total, not to be confused with "subtotal") on the day into double digits.Wang




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