How Often Is Kk A Profitable Pf All-in Call?

[goose 0]

CO - Hero $120BB - Villain $180.5/1 blinds, 9 handed UB NL.folds, MP1 calls, folds, Hero raises to $4.50, button/SB folds, BB goes all-in, MP1 folds, Hero?Can't find the hand history on this one but it's pretty straightforward. How often is it profitable to call these types of situations. Against a stack <$30-60 read depending I'm calling, but villain is TAGish and I can't see him making a move on this pot without AA,KK, or AK... I wasn't really blind stealing this session, so it's doubtful he thought I was stealing, or even raising with a marginal AJs or whatever.

[Stallion714 0]

Um...Perhaps you could offer some more of those tiny little, trivial really, details. Like I dunno hole cards, or sumthin.Or, were you really wanting to know what kind of piece of the pie Kings get vs. any random hand. In wich case I can blow the dust off poker stove.

[rusmac31 0]

goose,I think you know the general answer to your question...95% of poker players go all-in preflop with KK, especially in a cash game.On this hand, if the guy really is TAG if he had AA, it seems highly unlikely he's going to re-raise $115 for a $6 pot. If he really does have AA and he's making this move he would be more LAG to me.AA is going to want to see a flop heads up, especially if he's observed that you are tight as well.But in the end, if you raise and you get re-raised and it's back to you heads up, you push all-in 100% of the time in a cash game.my 2 cents

[petersun 0]

Um...Perhaps you could offer some more of those tiny little, trivial really, details. Like I dunno hole cards, or sumthin.Or, were you really wanting to know what kind of piece of the pie Kings get vs. any random hand. In wich case I can blow the dust off poker stove.

I think he's implying he has KKs. I think you call. The all-in overbet indicates weakness. If he had aces, even TAGs would try to string you along (smaller raise, flat call, etc.). Of course this is UB and I hear it's a rock farm over there =)

[Stallion714 0]

I think he's implying he has KKs.

Makes a little more sense. Guess that's what the title was saying, but the text had me upended.If you can narrow the dude down to those cards you're a slight dog, but it doesnt matter barring you absolutely knowing he has aces you have to get it all in with kings it's just the way it is.

[DrawingDeadInDM 0]

Call. From my experience, you're a 4-1--QQ, JJ--favorite about 55% of the time. Probably a 7-3--AX--favorite 30% of the time, and probably a 4-1 dog--AA--about 15% of the time.

[Shaffer 0]

Call. Villian could have JJ-QQ as well, maybe even TT (at lower stakes even 99-77). Players make moves like this with these hands because they don't even bother to consider that you might have AA-KK, and think, "man, my QQ just HAS to be good, but am I really going to let myself get bluffed off of this one when a K comes on the flop?" The massive overbet satisfies their conditions for preventing themselves from making what they would perceive as a big postflop mistake (at the expense of making what they don't realize is a massive preflop mistake).Remember the proliferation of tournaments, where plays like this overbet are far more common, don't require AA, and in certain situations, are probably justified (though they are certainly overused).I've never dumped KK preflop in a cash game, and it would take some pretty serious sort of situation for me even to consider it. Probably multiple players entering the pot with raises and reraises, then a tight-passive player coming way over the top of everyone before the pot ever gets to me. I think that DN blogged that he's only ever dumped KK once preflop (and it was - results-oriented thinking alert - a mistake that one time, as the guy had QQ). Maybe if I specifically read someone as pulling the Smasharoo strat (a very simple and marginally winning strategy at extreme micro stakes), I'd know they were only pushing preflop with AA and KK.Of course, villain could still have AA (in fact it's probably more likely than any one other individual holding of theirs), and it sucks when they do.