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[DwayneWayne]

Live Tourney46 players. $20 with Unlimited Re-Buys for first 3 levels.Double and Triple Re-buys are available once on the felt.$20 get your 200 chips.Blinds start at 10-10. 30 min levels.Pays: 1. 12002. 8003. 5004. 3005. 1806. 40 I have 4 hands that I would like advise/strategy on, more the why would you do what you would do more then the what you would do. I’m not really interested in pot odds or any odds you can get out of any book, I’m looking for sounds Tournament Strategy that will lead itself to setting up your stack toward a run at making the most money. I’ll do my best to paint the picture with each hand. If you could look at each hand independently it would help, I don’t think after playing through them that each had a direct impact so to speak on the next hand. Don’t read ahead as it might give away some info. Results to all will follow. Hand 1. You are on the Button. Blinds are 25-50. You have around 1200 in chips, the table leader. Average stack is around 300. UTG just lost a big hand and throws his last 100 chip in, raising the blinds. Folded to a player with a stack of 850, He makes a min raise and it is 200 to go. Folded to you. Both blinds stacks are very small. You see AsQd Call...all-in, or fold? And why. This is the last hand before the 2nd level and final level before the re-buys are over. Buying more chips is not an option as it is such a bad lay-over. Hand 2.You are on the button. Blinds are 150-300. 16 players are left, you have 3600 (one of the bigger stacks at your table which has 7 on it, as the other table has a majority of the chips). A player just got eliminated so there is only the BB in the pot. UTG goes all in for 1100, 2 players fold, the next player an older man that has been asking about the final table for the last 20 mins, he calls, leaving him with 1300 behind. The player to you right now calls as well, he is the table chip leader and has you covered. You look down and see: 77Your play. The BB is still yet to act behind you. BB has around 2000 in chips. Hand 3. You are in the SB. Blinds are 300-600. 4 players are left. You have 5000, 2 players have over 12K and one other player has 2400 (the BB). You post and so does the shortest stack he now has 1800 in front of him after posting. You have 4700. The chip leader opens up for 2000, the button folds and you see AsTd. PUSH? Fold? Call? Hand 4. You are in the BB. Blinds just got raised to 500-1000. 4 players left. You have 4500. The other shortest stack just doubled up and now has around 6K. You post and have 3500 behind your blind. The big stack (14K) raises it to 2500. Folded to you and you see QdJs. Push or fold? Thanks again.

[holman3rd]

DwayneWayne said:

Live Tourney46 players. $20 with Unlimited Re-Buys for first 3 levels.Double and Triple Re-buys are available once on the felt.$20 get your 200 chips.Blinds start at 10-10. 30 min levels.Pays: 1. 12002. 8003. 5004. 3005. 1806. 40 I have 4 hands that I would like advise/strategy on, more the why would you do what you would do more then the what you would do. I’m not really interested in pot odds or any odds you can get out of any book, I’m looking for sounds Tournament Strategy that will lead itself to setting up your stack toward a run at making the most money. I’ll do my best to paint the picture with each hand. If you could look at each hand independently it would help, I don’t think after playing through them that each had a direct impact so to speak on the next hand. Don’t read ahead as it might give away some info. Results to all will follow. Hand 1. You are on the Button. Blinds are 25-50. You have around 1200 in chips, the table leader. Average stack is around 300. UTG just lost a big hand and throws his last 100 chip in, raising the blinds. Folded to a player with a stack of 850, He makes a min raise and it is 200 to go. Folded to you. Both blinds stacks are very small. You see AsQd Call...all-in, or fold? And why. This is the last hand before the 2nd level and final level before the re-buys are over. Buying more chips is not an option as it is such a bad lay-over. Hand 2.You are on the button. Blinds are 150-300. 16 players are left, you have 3600 (one of the bigger stacks at your table which has 7 on it, as the other table has a majority of the chips). A player just got eliminated so there is only the BB in the pot. UTG goes all in for 1100, 2 players fold, the next player an older man that has been asking about the final table for the last 20 mins, he calls, leaving him with 1300 behind. The player to you right now calls as well, he is the table chip leader and has you covered. You look down and see: 77Your play. The BB is still yet to act behind you. BB has around 2000 in chips. Hand 3. You are in the SB. Blinds are 300-600. 4 players are left. You have 5000, 2 players have over 12K and one other player has 2400 (the BB). You post and so does the shortest stack he now has 1800 in front of him after posting. You have 4700. The chip leader opens up for 2000, the button folds and you see AsTd. PUSH? Fold? Call? Hand 4. You are in the BB. Blinds just got raised to 500-1000. 4 players left. You have 4500. The other shortest stack just doubled up and now has around 6K. You post and have 3500 behind your blind. The big stack (14K) raises it to 2500. Folded to you and you see QdJs. Push or fold? Thanks again.

Hand #1: Fold. Given no other read, I put the min raiser on a hand that can beat me, probably a high pocket pair. If he had AK (which would be really bad for me), he'd probably raise big to isolate the all-in player. If he had, say, AJ, he would probably limp (again, absent a read).I'm the chip leader and I'm not taking a chance this early in a spot where I think I'm behind.Hand #2: Fold. You are way behind. (maybe i missed something here).Hand #3: Fold. You are out of position, and AT is not a hand to play back with against a big stack (again, absent a read). Plus, you have time to wait for a better spot, at the short stack is on life support. Your stack still gives you plenty of fold equity for stealing purposes later on.Hand #4: Push. Big stack could have a wide range of hands here. I'm on life support and need to make a stand here.

[bobbytheo3]

hnd #1---tough one here. im going to say fold because AQo is such a vulnerbale hand that i wouldnt want to get involved against a big stack with it. whats a good flop for you? an A and you could still be behind AK and possibly double up the guy who has 850 already. Q blank blank is best case, and even that is not anywhere near the nuts.hand #2- easy fold. your 7's are only gonna be good if you flop a set here, and obiously you cant play for that.hand #3- i push all in here. I like the A-10 in a 4 handed game and there is a good amount of money in the pot already to take.hand #4- i push all-in here as well. QJ is too good of a hand to give up your BB with. if you fold, you are small blind next hand and in dire straits.

[bobbytheo3]

in hand #3, im assuming that if both you and the short stack get all your money in here and both lose to the original raiser, that you get 3rd place money because you had a bigger stack going in.

[DwayneWayne]

Results:Ok...Hand 1. I folded. The All-in player had QJ and the raiser (850 stack) turned over AT. I def think folding is correct here and I’m glad ppl agreed.Hand 2. I folded. The BB actually called as well and flopped 2 pair to win the pot. Hands as bad as K8 where out there. Folding into that mess was the right play I thought at the time and still think is it. Again, feels better knowing ppl are thinking the same way.Hand 3. This is the hand that I thought about the most after the tournament. The chip leader was being aggressive, not overly in your face aggressive but still put pressure on at any time he could. I folded the AT with the thinking that I am so far behing the 2 bigger stacks that it was probably better to wait for a better hand or for the small stack to go bust first. Moving me up in the ladder. I’m stuck on which play is optimal here.The Short stack doubled up when he got his AQ v A9 and thus put more pressure on me when HAND 4 came up. I pushed and got called by AJ.Out in 4th.My concerns about my final table play come when we are in the money and each place jumps at a nice amount. With 5 handed play are you pushing with any Ace? KQ? KJ? I found myself folding A6, A4, I even folded an A7 when raised while I was on the button. Is this too weak tight for this time of the tournament? The blinds where big enough compared to my stack that unless I had a monster (which I was hoping to limp with) I wanted to win them to get another orbit of play in with my stack in place.

[bobbytheo3]

so on hand #3 im assuming the short stack folded and you never knew what the raiser had???, or was that the hand where the short stack doubled up? i didnt understand completely

[DwayneWayne]

No, I folded and the Shortest Stack folded too. I never knew what he had. A couple of hands later the Short stack pushed all in with AQ and was called by the less aggressive of the big stacks with A9. The AQ held up and he doubled up.

[bobbytheo3]

ok, i gotcha. that hand 3 was a tough one. i cant really fault you for folding here and trying to win an extra 200 dollars by moving up a spot. however, since the raiser was fairly agressive, there was a good chance yuou had him beat here. if you push all-in. there is now 7600 in the pot and he has to call 3000 more. he probly will call here with a variety of hands that are underdogs to your A-10, given his pot odds. and if you double him up, all of a sudden your in 2nd place with 10,600 chips and a good chance to win. if he folds, you are then in 3rd place with 7600 and not trailing the leaders by much. if he has you beat here, thems the breaks. either way, i nuderstand your play but i like trying to get all my money in if i think i have an edge and give myself a chance for the 1200 dollar first prize.