Of The Stone Age

[CobaltBlue 662]

Bodog $25k Guaranteed (6-handed)MP T4,130CO T7,765Cobalt T5,040Blinds 50/100Avg. 6,800Players 221/330 (Bubble: 36)Cobalt is BB w/ Q Q . CO is a donk. He loves to limp into pots, he's a bit of a calling station, and he frequently min-bets flops/turns/rivers w/ air or something terrible like BPCK. Not sure about MP. The hand prior to this, I'd given around T3,400 to another guy who just called down (seriously...PF, flop, turn, river) with AA...so I suspect that I may look tilty.Pre-flop:1 fold, MP calls, CO calls, 2 folds, Cobalt raises to T340, MP calls, CO callsFlop (T1,370): 2 3 T (3 players)Cobalt bets T960, MP calls, CO callsTurn (T4,250): 2 (3 players)Cobalt goes all-in for T3,640 ?Any other way to play it? I've started trying to make my PF raises smaller, but being out of position with two limpers, I might've needed to go bigger.

[copernicus 0]

Yes, I would have raised more pf. Im not sure why you would be making your pf raises smaller in general, unless they were bigger than (3-5 + limpers) x bb. If you are playing TAG you really cant afford to raise less, because you are playing so few hands.With a calling station in the CO I might have bet more on the flop as well (pot), both for value and to give second thoughts to any weak draws.

[CobaltBlue 662]

Yes, I would have raised more pf. Im not sure why you would be making your pf raises smaller in general, unless they were bigger than (3-5 + limpers) x bb. If you are playing TAG you really cant afford to raise less, because you are playing so few hands.

Eh. I'm trying to play a bit more LAG...so I'm making 3x+limps raises instead of my typical 3.5-4x+limps. Basically though, I still didn't raise enough here. And, I may be misapplying my Goehring-Lindgren inspiration. Online tournaments might not be the correct situation to be LAG and look to play a lot postflop.

[copernicus 0]

Eh. I'm trying to play a bit more LAG...so I'm making 3x+limps raises instead of my typical 3.5-4x+limps. Basically though, I still didn't raise enough here. And, I may be misapplying my Goehring-Lindgren inspiration. Online tournaments might not be the correct situation to be LAG and look to play a lot postflop.

Lindgren talks about stacks of 100 bb to play small ball. Though that may be a little high I think 40-50 bb is stretching it.

[CobaltBlue 662]

Lindgren talks about stacks of 100 bb to play small ball. Though that may be a little high I think 40-50 bb is stretching it.

So basically...work on playing more LAG, "smaller" pots, etc in my cash games and play more TAG in normal online MTTs? I've been trying to adapt both, but you might be right.

[copernicus 0]

So basically...work on playing more LAG, "smaller" pots, etc in my cash games and play more TAG in normal online MTTs? I've been trying to adapt both, but you might be right.

I dont play cash games but the traditional theory is that super-tight and aggressive is the best strategy there. Since blinds arent increasing you can be patient, and there is no need to play drawing hands other than to mix up your play a bit.Also a lot of the power of LAG is that when the opponent cant put you on a hand, your big raises that threaten their tourney life are difficult to call. In a cash game, when they can reload, there isnt the same kind of pressure.

[CobaltBlue 662]

I dont play cash games but the traditional theory is that super-tight and aggressive is the best strategy there. Since blinds arent increasing you can be patient, and there is no need to play drawing hands other than to mix up your play a bit.Also a lot of the power of LAG is that when the opponent cant put you on a hand, your big raises that threaten their tourney life are difficult to call. In a cash game, when they can reload, there isnt the same kind of pressure.

I should clarify that while TAG is a great approach (and the approach that I've always used) in lower level cash games, LAG can also work against certain opponents...and must be used to some extent as you move up.Anyway, I guess what you're telling me is that I should stay the course and reserve LAG for deep buy-in tourneys?

[copernicus 0]

I should clarify that while TAG is a great approach (and the approach that I've always used) in lower level cash games, LAG can also work against certain opponents...and must be used to some extent as you move up.Anyway, I guess what you're telling me is that I should stay the course and reserve LAG for deep buy-in tourneys?

I'm just learning LAG myself, but from what Ive read, yes, deep stacks are necessary.