Sustainable 12$ Sng #'s?

[jjgoldy5 0]

1st - 102nd - 83rd - 74th - 55th - 36th - 27th - 38th - 29th - 0Input 480Total Won 867.5ROI 81%Net $387.50 Avg Net $9.69

[jhub30 0]

This is not attainable in the long run. I believe the sustainable ROI 2 plus 2 posts for this level is something like 24% while 4 tableing. You're probably just on a good run.

[copernicus 0]

No, this isnt sustainable unless youve found a place with absolutely clueless players. 40% ROI is more realistic at the $12 level.

[jjgoldy5 0]

No, this isnt sustainable unless youve found a place with absolutely clueless players. 40% ROI is more realistic at the $12 level.

The players are pretty clueless...How many SNGs to get a true sample?1. No. of Entries = 402. Sum of Entries = 1313. Mean Average = 3.2754. Std. Dev. = 2.1195% chance that my true average lies between 1st (1.165) and 5th (5.375)

[Frinkenstein 0]

1st - 102nd - 83rd - 74th - 55th - 36th - 27th - 38th - 29th - 0Input 480Total Won 867.5ROI 81%Net $387.50 Avg Net $9.69

These stats are not sustainable at all. Even against bad players. You are clearly on a major heater.You have a sample size of 40 games. You will need a sample size MUCH greater than that to get an idea of what your true ROI is. You'd probably need more than 400 as a bare minimum to get a real indication of what your ROI is.Any ROI above 30% is excellent.You WILL hit a downswing sometime and it WILL feel awful. It's how you deal with the impending downswing that will define your success.

[copernicus 0]

The players are pretty clueless...How many SNGs to get a true sample?1. No. of Entries = 402. Sum of Entries = 1313. Mean Average = 3.2754. Std. Dev. = 2.1195% chance that my true average lies between 1st (1.165) and 5th (5.375)

Yes, a 95% chance that your true average is out of the money! I would think you need several hundred tourneys to get a credible distribution of results.

[TheMathProf 0]

I've always been meaning to ask, and this seems like a suitable place to ask it.I haven't been keeping separate records for my SnG's and MTT's (I didn't think to when I started record keeping, and separating the data now seems a bit... much).But can MTT's have a higher overall RoI than SnG's (although obviously more variable due to their size)?

[copernicus 0]

I've always been meaning to ask, and this seems like a suitable place to ask it.I haven't been keeping separate records for my SnG's and MTT's (I didn't think to when I started record keeping, and separating the data now seems a bit... much).But can MTT's have a higher overall RoI than SnG's (although obviously more variable due to their size)?

I cant think of any reason they couldnt have a higher ROI for any given player. They require somewhat different skill sets and a player may be better at one than the other. The house take on them is pretty similar so that shouldnt favor one over the other. The larger stack/blind ratios of MTTs lend itself to skill being more important (this was more true under the old Party blind structures), and overall I think the quality of SnG players is higher because there arent as many horrible players lured in by the big payoffs.As you point out the variance can be a killer in the MTTs, but one first place finish supports an awful lot of entry fees.

[Mercury69 3]

Ride that horse, but hold on, because it's gonna try and buck...right up the behind.