11 replies to this topic

[David_Nicoson]

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BB ($256.55)
UTG ($208.80)
UTG+1 ($333.85)
Hero ($203.35)
MP1 ($184.65)
MP2 ($78)
MP3 ($210.70)
CO ($234.95)
Button ($208.10)
SB ($60.40)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with 2 , 2 .
1 fold, Hero raises to $5, MP1 calls $5, 3 folds, Button calls $5, 2 folds.

Flop: ($18) 9 , 4 , K (4 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks, Button bets $2, Hero . . .

That seems like a wimpy bet there. Board's suited, though, and I'm obviously beat. Take a stab?

[Frinkenstein]

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Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

BB ($256.55)
UTG ($208.80)
UTG+1 ($333.85)
Hero ($203.35)
MP1 ($184.65)
MP2 ($78)
MP3 ($210.70)
CO ($234.95)
Button ($208.10)
SB ($60.40)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with 2 , 2 .
1 fold, Hero raises to $5, MP1 calls $5, 3 folds, Button calls $5, 2 folds.

Flop: ($18) 9 , 4 , K (4 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks, Button bets $2, Hero . . .

That seems like a wimpy bet there. Board's suited, though, and I'm obviously beat. Take a stab?

No. Fold and move on. If you were going to take a stab, you should have made a continuation bet on the flop I think.

Also, I would only play 22 for a limp from EP. And even then I wouldn't be all that happy about playing 22 from EP.

[Petoria]

No. Fold and move on. If you were going to take a stab, you should have made a continuation bet on the flop I think.

Also, I would only play 22 for a limp from EP. And even then I wouldn't be all that happy about playing 22 from EP.

I'm not too concerned about him playing 22, I mean, it's a gamble, but, if you hit, you'll proly have a big score. Do this just to switch up your play from time to time and dont make this standard.


That being said, if you're going to raise with it, then you have to continuation bet. C/R'ing there looks like an afterthought, and just a reaction to his bet, and will usually cost you more money.

So once you check, just let it go to any bet.

[Scott3705]

No. Fold and move on. If you were going to take a stab, you should have made a continuation bet on the flop I think.

Also, I would only play 22 for a limp from EP. And even then I wouldn't be all that happy about playing 22 from EP.

That's a very tight line.

i kinda like the idea behind it, but agree w/ Petoria that it will seem more like a reactionary bet to an obviously small bet. If you are willing to fire out on the turn if you're called, eh... not awful, but probably not that good either. if you're going to give up if you're called, then definately fold or call and lead the turn.

[David_Nicoson]

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Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

BB ($256.55)
UTG ($208.80)
UTG+1 ($333.85)
Hero ($203.35)
MP1 ($184.65)
MP2 ($78)
MP3 ($210.70)
CO ($234.95)
Button ($208.10)
SB ($60.40)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with 2 , 2 .
1 fold, Hero raises to $5, MP1 calls $5, 3 folds, Button calls $5, 2 folds.

Flop: ($18) 9 , 4 , K (4 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks, Button bets $2, Hero raises to $18, MP1 folds, Button folds.

Final Pot: $38

[Petoria]

I guess these players werent good, but if you ever play good players, you'd be in trouble.

[David_Nicoson]

I guess these players werent good, but if you ever play good players, you'd be in trouble.

I don't think a good player bets $2 in this situation, so I don't think it'll come up.

[DonkSlayer]

I'm probably folding or limping preflop. If you raise, you have to make a continuation bet. If he doesn't have a K, he doesn't call. If he does, he calls/raises, and you fold on the flop or turn.

$2 is either a tremendously donk underbet or he has a set and hopes you have AK, KQ or AA.

[David_Nicoson]

I'm probably folding or limping preflop. If you raise, you have to make a continuation bet.

I don't open-limp. I think it's a good policy. If this flop isn't suited, I definately run a continuation bet. It's a little iffy on a coordinated board.

If he doesn't have a K, he doesn't call. If he does, he calls/raises, and you fold on the flop or turn.

$2 is either a tremendously donk underbet or he has a set and hopes you have AK, KQ or AA.

It was a tremendously donk bet in this case.

[DrawingDeadInDM]

I almost immediately pop this to 15 or so.

Not sure I really hesitate, even.

[DonkSlayer]

dude she's married and preggo now...

[DrawingDeadInDM]

I wanted to point something out, about this hand, that I really didn't get a chance to, last night.

We're three handed, with the button making that donk bet, we can squeeze the MP player, and likely get the button to lay down his hand--and all for a relatively cheap price.

If we check/raise to 15(right around the pot), we're forcing the MP player to find a very real hand (two pair or better, MAYBE TPTK) to come along and play. The donk bet from the button means one of two things, usually. Extreme weakness or extreme strength--by raising to 15 we find out immediately and at a relatively cheap price.

If he calls our raise, then we likely need to not put another dollar into this pot without hitting a set. More times than not though, he lays this down. If MP comes along, same thing.

I think these are the pots that seperate good NLHE players from the very good; picking up small/medium pots without the goods when it's very likely we don't have the best hand. This is a pretty safe board for ANY pocket pair, and it sure doesn't seem like anyone hit a K. If anyone calls/raises, we bail, at very little cost to us--but we also gain information on how the villain/s play their big hands.

Just a few thoughts to chew on.