CobaltBlue 662 Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 Bodog 20/40 LHE (6-handed)Cobalt is MP w/ A Q . CO is a donk.Pre-flop:1 fold, Cobalt raises, CO calls, 2 folds, BB callsFlop (6.5 SB): 6 5 T (3 players)BB checks, Cobalt bets, CO calls, 1 foldTurn (4.25 BB): K (2 players)Cobalt bets, CO raises, Cobalt calls ? Link to post Share on other sites
PoppinFresh 0 Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 Cobalt folds.Would help if you gave us a better read though, saying villain is a donk doesn't clue us in on how he/she plays. Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted March 27, 2006 Author Share Posted March 27, 2006 Would help if you gave us a better read though, saying villain is a donk doesn't clue us in on how he/she plays.Villain limps a lot pre-flop. (He's loose.) He gets a little overzealous sometimes with marginal holdings. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 can't we call turn and fold river UI.Even if our Ace outs are worth just 1 out. Link to post Share on other sites
screech 0 Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 can't we call turn and fold river UI.Even if our Ace outs are worth just 1 out.Yeah. I think we should call this turn. Looks like CO is floating. I doubt he has you dominated with a set/AK type hand.BTW, I think you would be much better off checking the turn. Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted March 28, 2006 Author Share Posted March 28, 2006 BTW, I think you would be much better off checking the turn.No chance of the king scaring him into folding a small pair? I feel like I get a lot of folds from opponents in this spot. Link to post Share on other sites
srblan 0 Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 No chance of the king scaring him into folding a small pair? I feel like I get a lot of folds from opponents in this spot.Do you think he'd raise you with a small pair on the flop if he thought you might have ak? If so, I dunno if you are going to scare him out. If not, well, you might check-raise the turn to see if he'll give you free cards next time the situation arises. It costs you the same amount, and if you get 3-bet, then you know it's probably time to pack it in. Link to post Share on other sites
screech 0 Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 No chance of the king scaring him into folding a small pair? I feel like I get a lot of folds from opponents in this spot.Sure. There's a chance. But what small pairs are they exactly? 99-77 might fold, but people who call pf with these hands usually don't like to fold. 44-22 are unlikely, but agian, anyone who cold calls with these hands usually aren't going anywhere.You get riased here more often than you get a fold. Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted March 28, 2006 Author Share Posted March 28, 2006 Sure. There's a chance. But what small pairs are they exactly? 99-77 might fold, but people who call pf with these hands usually don't like to fold. 44-22 are unlikely, but agian, anyone who cold calls with these hands usually aren't going anywhere.You get raised here more often than you get a fold.I haven't found that to be the case against opponents with Calling Pattern Type 3 (see: Book of Bluffs). Part of this is testing for his calling pattern type.I'm not only referring to small pocket pairs. Opponent might also let go of a pair of 6s, 5s, or weak 10s. We'd also like to charge him if he's got some sort of draw - though the board is admittedly weak for draws. Link to post Share on other sites
screech 0 Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 I haven't found that to be the case against opponents with Calling Pattern Type 3 (see: Book of Bluffs). Part of this is testing for his calling pattern type.I'm not only referring to small pocket pairs. Opponent might also let go of a pair of 6s, 5s, or weak 10s. We'd also like to charge him if he's got some sort of draw - though the board is admittedly weak for draws.The problem as I see it is that if he's cold-calling hands that contian 5's or 6's, then he's not folding.And I don't think you get a fold from anyone holding a T here. Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted March 28, 2006 Author Share Posted March 28, 2006 I guess I'll go ahead and reveal the results. I figured I had enough outs to see the river. Turns out that the beautiful jack popped off to give me the nuts and I was able to check-raise him. He had a set of 5s. Link to post Share on other sites
greatwhite 0 Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 Why not lead out on the river? It looks more like your opponent has a made hand rather than a draw. Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted March 28, 2006 Author Share Posted March 28, 2006 Why not lead out on the river? It looks more like your opponent has a made hand rather than a draw....because I hate donk betting and figured I'd get more value out of a check-raise. But you might be right. Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 Why the hell would you donk bet the river. I think that cuts you down to one bet way more often than it makes you three. Maybe if we could put them exactly on a set that would be a good play. However, if villian has a hand like AK or KT, they'll pay off the c/r all day, but will almost never raise the river and call a three-bet. Link to post Share on other sites
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