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[CobaltBlue]

Bodog 20/40 LHE (6-handed)

Cobalt is MP w/ A Q . CO is a donk.

Pre-flop:
1 fold, Cobalt raises, CO calls, 2 folds, BB calls

Flop (6.5 SB): 6 5 T (3 players)
BB checks, Cobalt bets, CO calls, 1 fold

Turn (4.25 BB): K (2 players)
Cobalt bets, CO raises, Cobalt calls ?

[PoppinFresh]

Cobalt folds.

Would help if you gave us a better read though, saying villain is a donk doesn't clue us in on how he/she plays.

[CobaltBlue]

Would help if you gave us a better read though, saying villain is a donk doesn't clue us in on how he/she plays.

Villain limps a lot pre-flop. (He's loose.) He gets a little overzealous sometimes with marginal holdings.

[Actuary]

can't we call turn and fold river UI.
Even if our Ace outs are worth just 1 out.

[screech]

can't we call turn and fold river UI.
Even if our Ace outs are worth just 1 out.

Yeah. I think we should call this turn. Looks like CO is floating. I doubt he has you dominated with a set/AK type hand.

BTW, I think you would be much better off checking the turn.

[CobaltBlue]

BTW, I think you would be much better off checking the turn.

No chance of the king scaring him into folding a small pair? I feel like I get a lot of folds from opponents in this spot.

[srblan]

No chance of the king scaring him into folding a small pair? I feel like I get a lot of folds from opponents in this spot.

Do you think he'd raise you with a small pair on the flop if he thought you might have ak? If so, I dunno if you are going to scare him out.

If not, well, you might check-raise the turn to see if he'll give you free cards next time the situation arises. It costs you the same amount, and if you get 3-bet, then you know it's probably time to pack it in.

[screech]

No chance of the king scaring him into folding a small pair? I feel like I get a lot of folds from opponents in this spot.

Sure. There's a chance. But what small pairs are they exactly?

99-77 might fold, but people who call pf with these hands usually don't like to fold. 44-22 are unlikely, but agian, anyone who cold calls with these hands usually aren't going anywhere.

You get riased here more often than you get a fold.

[CobaltBlue]

Sure. There's a chance. But what small pairs are they exactly?

99-77 might fold, but people who call pf with these hands usually don't like to fold. 44-22 are unlikely, but agian, anyone who cold calls with these hands usually aren't going anywhere.

You get raised here more often than you get a fold.

I haven't found that to be the case against opponents with Calling Pattern Type 3 (see: Book of Bluffs). Part of this is testing for his calling pattern type.

I'm not only referring to small pocket pairs. Opponent might also let go of a pair of 6s, 5s, or weak 10s. We'd also like to charge him if he's got some sort of draw - though the board is admittedly weak for draws.

[screech]

I haven't found that to be the case against opponents with Calling Pattern Type 3 (see: Book of Bluffs). Part of this is testing for his calling pattern type.

I'm not only referring to small pocket pairs. Opponent might also let go of a pair of 6s, 5s, or weak 10s. We'd also like to charge him if he's got some sort of draw - though the board is admittedly weak for draws.

The problem as I see it is that if he's cold-calling hands that contian 5's or 6's, then he's not folding.

And I don't think you get a fold from anyone holding a T here.

[CobaltBlue]

I guess I'll go ahead and reveal the results. I figured I had enough outs to see the river. Turns out that the beautiful jack popped off to give me the nuts and I was able to check-raise him. He had a set of 5s.

[greatwhite]

Why not lead out on the river? It looks more like your opponent has a made hand rather than a draw.

[CobaltBlue]

Why not lead out on the river? It looks more like your opponent has a made hand rather than a draw.

...because I hate donk betting and figured I'd get more value out of a check-raise. But you might be right.

[iggymcfly]

Why the hell would you donk bet the river. I think that cuts you down to one bet way more often than it makes you three. Maybe if we could put them exactly on a set that would be a good play. However, if villian has a hand like AK or KT, they'll pay off the c/r all day, but will almost never raise the river and call a three-bet.