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[Hatchet]

I had a rough day today.. seems like I should be up at least $250 instead I'm basically even thanks to these hands. Basically had a problem with my straights outdrawn by sets and sets outdrawn by straight draws.. If anyone can endure through the histories can you offer some feedback? maybe I shoulda folded the flop on the third one.




Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
8 players

Stack sizes:
UTG: $60.50
UTG+1: $68
Hero: $30.15
MP2: $62.70
CO: $42.10
Button: $79.80
SB: $29.90
BB: $37.70

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is MP1 with 8s 4s 5c 6d
UTG calls $0.5, UTG+1 calls $0.5, Hero raises to $1, 3 folds, SB calls $0.75, BB folds, UTG calls $0.5, UTG+1 raises to $6, Hero calls $4.5, 2 folds.

Flop: 9h 7s 2c ($14.5, 2 players)
UTG+1 bets $13.5, Hero raises all-in $24.65, UTG+1 calls $11.15.

Turn: 7c ($63.8, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $63.8)


River: 2h ($63.8, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $63.8)


Results:
Final pot: $63.8
UTG+1 showed As Ah 5h 2s
Hero showed 8s 4s 5c 6d

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Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
8 players

Stack sizes:
UTG: $44.70
UTG+1: $52.20
MP1: $16.70
MP2: $14.20
CO: $116.90
Button: $58.60
Hero: $74.35
BB: $13.40

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is SB with ad 7s 4d 8c
UTG calls $0.5, UTG+1 calls $0.5, MP1 calls $0.5, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.25, BB checks.

Flop: 3s 6s 5d ($2.5, 5 players)
Hero bets $2.5, BB folds, UTG calls $2.5, UTG+1 raises to $10, MP1 folds, Hero raises to $37.5, UTG folds, UTG+1 raises all-in $51.7, Hero calls $16.7.

Turn: 8h ($108.4, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $108.4)


River: 8d ($108.4, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $108.4)


Results:
Final pot: $108.4
UTG+1 showed 6d 6c Qh 9h
Hero showed Ad 7s 4d 8c

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Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
9 players

Stack sizes:
UTG: $41.85
UTG+1: $38
MP1: $23.75
MP2: $11.45
MP3: $49.85
CO: $25
Hero: $75.60
SB: $49
BB: $48.15

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is Button with kd ah th 4d
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $0.5, MP1 calls $0.5, MP2 calls $0.5, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.85, SB folds, BB calls $1.35, UTG+1 calls $1.35, MP1 calls $1.35, MP2 calls $1.35.

Flop: jc 3c qs ($9.5, 5 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 bets $9.5, MP1 folds, MP2 raises all-in $9.6, Hero calls $9.6, BB folds, UTG+1 calls $0.1.

Turn: ad ($38.3, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: $38.3)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $38.3, UTG+1 calls all-in $26.55.
Uncalled bets: $11.75 returned to Hero.

River: qc ($91.4, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $38.3, Sidepot 1: $53.1)


Results:
Final pot: $91.4
Hero showed Kd Ah Th 4d
UTG+1 showed Td 3s Js Jd
MP2 showed Kc 9s 2c 9c

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Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
7 players

Stack sizes:
UTG: $49.75
UTG+1: $52.50
MP1: $47.50
CO: $30
Hero: $82.45
SB: $49.50
MP2: $11.45
MP3: $49.85
BB: $128.90

Pre-flop: (7 players) Hero is Button with td jd 3h jh
UTG calls $0.5, 2 folds, CO raises to $1, Hero calls $1, SB raises to $4.25, 2 folds, CO calls $3, Hero calls $3.

Flop: js kh 7s ($13.75, 3 players)
SB bets $8, CO raises all-in $26, Hero calls $26, SB folds.

Turn: 8d ($73.75, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $73.75)


River: 6h ($73.75, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $73.75)


Results:
Final pot: $73.75
CO showed 8c Tc 9s Th
Hero showed Td Jd 3h Jh

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Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
7 players

Stack sizes:
UTG: $8.35
UTG+1: $43.15
MP2: $11.45
MP3: $49.85
MP1: $44.25
CO: $42.15
Button: $16.75
SB: $100.75
Hero: $23.65

Pre-flop: (7 players) Hero is BB with 8h 8d 2d 3h
UTG calls $0.5, UTG+1 folds, MP1 raises to $2.25, 2 folds, SB calls $2, Hero calls $1.75, UTG calls $1.75.

Flop: 5s ad 4c ($9, 4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, MP1 bets $9, SB folds, Hero raises all-in $21.4, UTG folds, MP1 calls $12.4.

Turn: 2s ($51.8, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $51.8)


River: 2h ($51.8, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $51.8)


Results:
Final pot: $51.8
MP1 showed As Ac Qh Kc
Hero showed 8h 8d 2d 3h

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Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
8 players

Stack sizes:
UTG: $52.20
MP3: $49.85
UTG+1: $28.60
MP1: $57.55
MP2: $48.80
Hero: $103.30
Button: $189
SB: $80.05
BB: $44.65

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is CO with ts tc 9h qc
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $0.5, MP1 calls $0.5, MP2 folds, Hero raises to $1, Button folds, SB raises to $4.75, 2 folds, MP1 calls $4, Hero calls $3.5.

Flop: ks 9d js ($15.25, 3 players)
SB checks, MP1 bets $14.5, Hero raises to $58, SB folds, MP1 calls all-in $38.55.
Uncalled bets: $4.95 returned to Hero.

Turn: td ($121.35, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $121.35)


River: 9c ($121.35, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $121.35)


Results:
Final pot: $121.35
MP1 showed 2d 3h Kc Kh
Hero showed Ts Tc 9h Qc

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[dingas]

I think most of these hands you got your money in with the best hand and just got unlucky. In general though, you shouldn't go crazy when you flop a straight, especially when there's a flush draw on the board, since against a set and a flush draw you are a big dog, and someone could easily have the same straight as you, which always sucks.

1st hand -- I don't see why you would min-raise preflop. This is a very marginal hand. Why build the pot? Calling the raise is okay, since you know what villain has and can make good decisions on the flop. Flop is fine, you had odds to get the money in.

2nd hand -- tough hand. I probably check the flop and wait for the turn to get agressive. As you played it, I think I would fold when it is raised back to me, but you got your money in with the best hand, so there's really nothing to criticize.

3rd hand -- The call on the flop is pretty terrible imo.

4th hand -- I probably wouldn't play this hand to begin with. The prudent play would be to fold the flop. One of your opponents could easily have KKK, if they don't, they'll usually have a big draw which is a favourite against your hand anyway. As it is, though you were a pretty big favourite and got drawn out on, it happens.

5th hand -- I don't understand why you called a pf raise with this crap, but after that, there's not much you can do differently.

6th hand -- You could easily be behind on this flop. Since you have position, just call and wait to see what comes on the turn and reevaluate. Look at it this way: villain is making only a small mistake by calling all-in on the flop with a set (or a flush draw, if that's what he has). On the turn, he will be making a big a mistake. On the other hand, if you are behind, you are making a huge mistake by getting all in now, whereas if the turn is a blank, you'll be making a much smaller mistake.

[srblan]

1st hand, you catch a good flop but don't improve after that. Tough break. Make a note that the guy overplays aces and make sure you wait for improvement before you shove next time.

2nd hand, hope you aren't freerolling someone with a flush or a higher straight, but you just took a tough beat. The guy's probably not folding his set on the turn if he wasn't going to on the flop. Again, make a note.

3rd hand, as stated before, you are in really rough shape on the flop. You're about 18% to win as opposed to UTG+1 55.5% and MP2 26% (yeah, it doesn't add up, I rounded off). If you had any kind of flush draw, even a small one, you'd be in much better shape to make this call because you'd be blocking some of the draw outs. I agree that this is a weak call, even though you got lucky to hit the turn, you're still only 50% to win against the other 2 (though 3-1 against the guy putting in most of the money). Tough beat, but you could have saved your money by not getting involved. Don't call a big bet to draw to a straight with a flush draw on board if you don't have the flush draw as well.

4th hand, tough beat. Hard to know if you are ahead here without knowing your opponents. Like dingas said, a strong argument could be made for folding. Middle and bottom sets are a huge leak in PLO. Make a note that CO plays drawing hands strongly.

5th hand, you are taking a big gamble, get a good flop where you are probably up against a set. You got outdrawn, the gamble didn't pay off. If you are going to play a hand like this, you have to realize that you are going to take big swings. Make a note that preflop raiser overplayed his set.

6th hand, tough beat, but I don't like your flop play. Call the flop and the turn card would have slowed you down. Turn was a terrible card for your hand (AQ just got you), but it was also terrible for your opponent. If he still pushes on the turn, he's an idiot, but it might be tough for you to get away from the hand at this point now that you have a set with your straight. If all the money is not in on the river, it's safe to say you're beat and have to fold to a bet. Don't give up that freeroll on the flop! Make a note that your opponent overplays sets. Again, I don't like the minraise preflop. Pot it or don't raise it.

[greatwhite]

Hand 1, simply call preflop and fold the flop. 8654 is not as good as it seems, as you often need a 7 to continue. On the flop this is a clear cut fold. You have 3 nut outs, the fives.
Hand 2, I'd probablly play it the same since you want to knock out sets and possible flush draws. Without the 8 this hand becomes unplayable. In fact, without the 7s I would chuck this hand, as they are more likely to have a straight with the flush draw.
Hand 3, Don't put anymore money in preflop with this hand. You'll be folding your fair share of times. Fold this hand on the flop. You have 12 outs in which case you may split the pot if either the turn or the river bring a club or pair the board your hand is probablly dead.
Hand 4, against a bet and a raise, without a king with my JJ I always fold here. A good half the time I see KK in someone's hand.
Hand 5, fold preflop. However, your flop action makes a lot of sense. Before I saw what his hand was, when he led out at the flop I put him on AA for sure.
Hand 6, This is tuff, because I'm not sure what sb will do. More than likely he will fold. I would also probablly go all in here, due to the fact if a scare card its, I'll have a difficuly decision on the turn.

With the exception of hands 2&6 I think all of the hands above should have been played differently. Half the hands 1,3, and 5 I think you played overly agressive with preflop.

[Deepkoncntrtion]

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