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#1 tallytownFSU

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Posted 21 March 2006 - 06:04 PM

$30/$60 LHE on Party (2 players at table)

Hero dealt K icon_suit_club.gif K icon_suit_diamond.gif on the button.

Hero bets. Villian re-raises. Hero 3 bets. Villian Caps betting. Hero calls. (2BB)

Flop is A icon_suit_heart.gif J icon_suit_diamond.gif 9 icon_suit_diamond.gif

Villian Checks. Hero Checks (2BB)

Turn is K icon_suit_heart.gif

Villian Checks. Hero Bets. Villian Raises. Hero Re-Raises. Villian Caps betting. Hero Calls. (6BB)

River is T icon_suit_diamond.gif

Villian Bets. Hero Calls. (7BB)

Ill post result after a response.

Obviously had to jam preflop. On the flop, he checked after about a 5 second deliberation, so I put him on a check raise, so I checked behind him. On the turn was a good card for me, but it worried me when he capped on the turn. I had to put him on a range of hands between AA, AK or AQ. I didn't think AJ was likely for him to cap preflop, as his play had been quite TA until this point. He wasn't one to play marginal hands preflop for many bets. So I didn't think I was in the lead at this point. Obviously the worst card in the deck fell for me, the T icon_suit_diamond.gif , filling both the straight and the flush. He bets, and I go into the tank. I figure im about 50/50 to win this hand. I figure he most likely has 99 or AA or AK. So, based on that read, I called him. Did i make a mistake?
*drags a pot*

"Figjam baby, figjam."

"Hey JJ, whats Figjam mean?"

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#2 offsuitbluff

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Posted 21 March 2006 - 06:09 PM

little too much money in there to not call on the end to one big bet. true the ten killed you probably, but you can still beat enough hands that the call is justified.











QUOTE (tallytownFSU @ Tuesday, March 21st, 2006, 6:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
$30/$60 LHE on Party (2 players at table)

Hero dealt K icon_suit_club.gif K icon_suit_diamond.gif on the button.

Hero raises. Villian re-raises. Hero 3 bets. Villian Caps betting. Hero calls. (2BB)

Flop is A icon_suit_heart.gif J icon_suit_diamond.gif 9 icon_suit_diamond.gif

Villian Checks. Hero Checks (2BB)

Turn is K icon_suit_heart.gif

Villian Bets. Hero Bets. Villian Raises. Hero Re-Raises. Villian Caps betting. Hero Calls. (6BB)

River is T icon_suit_diamond.gif

Villian Bets. Hero Calls. (7BB)

Ill post result after a response.

Obviously had to jam preflop. On the flop, he checked after about a 5 second deliberation, so I put him on a check raise, so I checked behind him. On the turn was a good card for me, but it worried me when he capped on the turn. I had to put him on a range of hands between AA, AK or AQ. I didn't think AJ was likely for him to cap preflop, as his play had been quite TA until this point. He wasn't one to play marginal hands preflop for many bets. So I didn't think I was in the lead at this point. Obviously the worst card in the deck fell for me, the T icon_suit_diamond.gif , filling both the straight and the flush. He checks, and I go into the tank. I figure im about 50/50 to win this hand. I figure he most likely has 99 or AA or AK. So, based on that read, I called him. Did i make a mistake?


#3 tallytownFSU

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Posted 21 March 2006 - 06:12 PM

He had 99. So it worked out.

He had 99. So it worked out.
*drags a pot*

"Figjam baby, figjam."

"Hey JJ, whats Figjam mean?"

"Fcuk I'm good, just ask me...."

#4 srblan

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Posted 21 March 2006 - 06:25 PM

You can't fold on the river there, and he made a terrible play checking that flop. Maybe he was going for the check-raise, but still...

#5 tallytownFSU

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Posted 22 March 2006 - 05:20 PM

also, daniel, it would be great to hear your opinion on this hand??
*drags a pot*

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"Hey JJ, whats Figjam mean?"

"Fcuk I'm good, just ask me...."

#6 Zach6668

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Posted 22 March 2006 - 05:20 PM

QUOTE (tallytownFSU @ Wednesday, March 22nd, 2006, 8:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
also, daniel, it would be great to hear your opinion on this hand??


Yeah, he doesn't read every thread....
QUOTE (serge @ Tuesday, May 12th, 2009, 7:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
LETS GO PITTSBURGH
QUOTE (Acid_Knight @ Monday, March 10th, 2008, 4:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Zach is right about pretty much everything.

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Posted 22 March 2006 - 05:33 PM

QUOTE (Zach6668 @ Wednesday, March 22nd, 2006, 5:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, he doesn't read every thread....


I'll PM him and request he opines on this hand

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Posted 22 March 2006 - 05:35 PM

QUOTE (Actuary @ Wednesday, March 22nd, 2006, 8:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'll PM him and request he opines on this hand

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QUOTE (serge @ Tuesday, May 12th, 2009, 7:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
LETS GO PITTSBURGH
QUOTE (Acid_Knight @ Monday, March 10th, 2008, 4:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Zach is right about pretty much everything.

#9 tallytownFSU

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Posted 22 March 2006 - 06:59 PM

bump
*drags a pot*

"Figjam baby, figjam."

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#10 Zach6668

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Posted 22 March 2006 - 07:19 PM

QUOTE (tallytownFSU @ Wednesday, March 22nd, 2006, 9:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
bump

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QUOTE (serge @ Tuesday, May 12th, 2009, 7:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
LETS GO PITTSBURGH
QUOTE (Acid_Knight @ Monday, March 10th, 2008, 4:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Zach is right about pretty much everything.

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Posted 23 March 2006 - 01:11 AM

QUOTE (tallytownFSU @ Tuesday, March 21st, 2006, 6:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hero raises. Villian re-raises. Hero 3 bets. Villian Caps betting. Hero calls. (2BB)


Villian Bets. Hero Bets. Villian Raises. Hero Re-Raises. Villian Caps betting. Hero Calls. (6BB)




What?

#12 Briguy

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Posted 23 March 2006 - 05:03 AM

This is a much more exciting hand if villain holds A icon_suit_diamond.gif Q icon_suit_diamond.gif . Right, Daniel?
I should change this.

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Posted 23 March 2006 - 07:40 AM

QUOTE (Briguy @ Thursday, March 23rd, 2006, 5:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is a much more exciting hand if villain holds A icon_suit_diamond.gif Q icon_suit_diamond.gif . Right, Daniel?


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Posted 23 March 2006 - 07:08 PM

I'm betting the flop and then calling a raise.

His delay before checking could mean a lot of things, ie he has a good hand and the A scared him, or he's thinking about checkraising, or he's surfing porn while playing poker. You never know.

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Posted 26 March 2006 - 11:38 AM

bump....would love some more advice on this
*drags a pot*

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Posted 26 March 2006 - 11:51 AM

QUOTE (tallytownFSU @ Sunday, March 26th, 2006, 2:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
bump....would love some more advice on this


the action is unclear, please clean it up a bit.
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Posted 26 March 2006 - 12:44 PM

When he caps preflop and checks the flop, i check behind.

I want to show it down for the bare minimum.

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Posted 28 March 2006 - 12:26 AM

I'm really confused as to what happened in this hand. Did you cap it preflop or did he? It makes a huge difference as to what the proper play is. Maybe you limped on the button? If so, that's a terrible play with KK. Otherwise, I don't see how he raises, you three-bet, and he caps. You said it's on Party, so there couldn't be a 5-bet cap. If you really want advice here, you have to make the action somewhat clear.
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#19 Abbaddabba

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Posted 28 March 2006 - 12:54 AM

Psst...

It's heads up, and it's on party.

Which means the button is the big blind.

Im guessing the "hero bets" part is him being in the blind, and the first raise is from the SB (villain).

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Posted 28 March 2006 - 01:10 AM

Ah, I missed that this was heads-up. That changes everything. Honestly, you can get such detailed reads playing heads-up, that it's pretty much impossible for someone to say "you played this right" or "you played this wrong", just from looking at the HH.

If Villain has shown a tendency to c/r the flop even after raising/reraising PF, then the flop play here is just fine. The turn makes sense, and I'm never folding a set on the river heads up. Never. That's actually one exception I'll make to the "detailed reads" rule, as you've got such good odds on your money that you have to pay it off no matter what.
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