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Preflop: econ_tim is BB with [Kh], [Ah].
1 fold, MP raises, 3 folds, econ_tim 3-bets, MP calls.
Flop: (6.40 SB) [Ts], [3h], [Jc] (2 players)
econ_tim bets, MP calls.
Turn: (4.20 BB) [8h] (2 players)
econ_tim bets, MP raises, econ_tim 3-bets, . . .
villain is pretty aggressive and likes to bluff but i don't know if he bluff raises the turn.
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Turn 3-bet
Started by econ_tim, Mar 21 2006 02:56 PM
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Posted 21 March 2006 - 02:56 PM
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Posted 21 March 2006 - 03:14 PM
I'd rather call him down UI then put in extra bets OOP against him. if we get capped we're screwed unless we hit a heart
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Posted 21 March 2006 - 03:33 PM
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Posted 21 March 2006 - 03:44 PM
Against a loose player who won't fold a pair I call down. Against someone who will fold less than top pair I raise.
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Posted 21 March 2006 - 05:29 PM
I'd like it a whole bunch more on a different board.
This one is too coordinated to be pulling this. He will often have a pair + a draw here, and will call down. Plus, you have no info on if he's capable of folding or if he's a showdown fiend.
I like semi-bluff 3-betting turns from time to time, and I think it's a very profitable play against the right opponents on the right type of board.
This one is too coordinated to be pulling this. He will often have a pair + a draw here, and will call down. Plus, you have no info on if he's capable of folding or if he's a showdown fiend.
I like semi-bluff 3-betting turns from time to time, and I think it's a very profitable play against the right opponents on the right type of board.
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Posted 22 March 2006 - 08:36 AM
QUOTE (screech @ Tuesday, March 21st, 2006, 8:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'd like it a whole bunch more on a different board.
This one is too coordinated to be pulling this. He will often have a pair + a draw here, and will call down. Plus, you have no info on if he's capable of folding or if he's a showdown fiend.
I like semi-bluff 3-betting turns from time to time, and I think it's a very profitable play against the right opponents on the right type of board.
This one is too coordinated to be pulling this. He will often have a pair + a draw here, and will call down. Plus, you have no info on if he's capable of folding or if he's a showdown fiend.
I like semi-bluff 3-betting turns from time to time, and I think it's a very profitable play against the right opponents on the right type of board.
what he said. we have little to no fold equity (all of which exists on a 3-bet and bet river, and that's slim and costly) here, so why bother? i can't imagine we're ahead, unless he's semibluffing a draw as well, which i don't think is likely considering we came out twice in a row.
new question: what types of opponents are ok for 3-betting a semibluff? what sorts of boards?
i would think my answer would be very, very few, and more dependent on the player than the board. i pretty much only use this move against players i don't like playing against, so if i get in a situation where i want to use this shorthanded, i'm switching tables.
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Posted 22 March 2006 - 08:51 AM
i like the raise. I think your hand could be improved with many cards.
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Posted 22 March 2006 - 09:46 PM
I don't like the 3-bet here. Like Keith said, you're out of position, so getting capped means we're screwed without hitting a Q or a heart. Plus, if he calls and we miss, we're likely spewing a bet on the river by bluffing again. (I just don't see 3-betting the turn then checking the river)
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Posted 23 March 2006 - 03:12 AM
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new question: what types of opponents are ok for 3-betting a semibluff? what sorts of boards?
Almost exclusively TAGs. But anyone capable of making moves, or raising the turn with less than stellar holdings is a candidate. They also must be able to lay down their hand when it looks like their beat.
For example, I raise in the CO with Ks9s, TAG defends.
Flop [Qs4c2s] Bet call.
Turn 5c. I bet, TAG raises, I 3-bet.
He could have a pp, or be semibluffing Ax himself. He may also lay down a TP hand like Q9 or something.
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