$50 to $1000 on pstars day 26

[Smasharoo 0]

The GoalTo turn $50 in my first Pokerstars deposit into $1000.The RulesI'll play only Limit games, primarily Holdem, though I might mix in some O8 or Stud etc. later on.I won't move up in limits without at least 300BB for the new limit. I will post hands that I win and lose and explain my thinking behind how I played them.I'm too lazy to spellcheck. Deal with it.Day 26: $1/$2 previewSome $1/$2 hands I played with a seperate bankroll, probably a lot more intresting than the last of 50 hands of grinding out .25/.50 to get over $300.I'll have .50/$1 hands in my next update. As an aside, much of the .50/$1 action seems to be 6-max, so myabe I'll alternate sessions between 6-max and full if I can't find enough full games going, having become acustomed to 5 tabling on Stars at this point.Anyway, some hands from $1/$2:*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Kc Ad]dkg62: folds Tayvl: folds Painter_J: folds agonndy: folds Chisness: raises $1 to $2thecandle: raises $1 to $3Havoc51: folds jMoNeY_1: calls $2.50SSommer: folds Chisness: calls $1I three-bet AK and get two callers.*** FLOP *** [6s Th 8s]jMoNeY_1: bets $1Chisness: calls $1thecandle: raises $1 to $2This is a good flop for Ak three handed. I have the best hand much of the time and substantial fold equity, being the pre-flop three-bettor.jMoNeY_1: raises $1 to $3Chisness: folds thecandle: calls $1I call the three-bet.*** TURN *** [6s Th 8s] [Ts]jMoNeY_1: bets $2thecandle: calls $2I call the turn bet, as I still often have the best hand here, but of course am sometimes paying off Tx and drawing dead.*** RIVER *** [6s Th 8s Ts] [Ah]jMoNeY_1: bets $2thecandle: calls $2*** SHOW DOWN ***jMoNeY_1: shows [8h 9h] (two pair, Tens and Eights)thecandle: shows [Kc Ad] (two pair, Aces and Tens)thecandle collected $24 from potGo me.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Kc Ks]Chisness: folds thecandle: raises $1 to $2Havoc51: folds jMoNeY_1: folds RawJumboJack: folds Painter_J has returnedSSommer: folds dkg62: folds agonndy: calls $1I raise KK, the BB defends.*** FLOP *** [Tc 2s Qh]agonndy: bets $1thecandle: raises $1 to $2agonndy: raises $1 to $3thecandle: calls $1He bets into me, I raise, he three-bets, I call.*** TURN *** [Tc 2s Qh] [5h]agonndy: bets $2thecandle: calls $2Bet call.*** RIVER *** [Tc 2s Qh 5h] [3h]agonndy: checks thecandle: checks *** SHOW DOWN ***agonndy: shows [Ah Qs] (a pair of Queens)thecandle: shows [Kc Ks] (a pair of Kings)thecandle collected $14 from potLittle weak by me on the river not betting out here.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Kc Ac]dkg62: folds Tayvl: folds Painter_J: folds pappy2: raises $1 to $2Chisness: folds thecandle: raises $1 to $3Havoc51: folds jMoNeY_1: raises $1 to $4Betting is cappedJ_Fellenbaum: folds pappy2: calls $2thecandle: calls $1I three-bet AK, it gets capped.*** FLOP *** [6h 2h 4h]jMoNeY_1: bets $1pappy2: calls $1thecandle: calls $1I call on the cordinated, but unlikey to have hit anyone, flop.*** TURN *** [6h 2h 4h] [Kd]jMoNeY_1: bets $2pappy2: calls $2thecandle: raises $2 to $4jMoNeY_1: raises $2 to $6pappy2: folds thecandle: calls $2I hit TPTK on the turn and raise it, can call the three-bet.*** RIVER *** [6h 2h 4h Kd] [Qh]jMoNeY_1: bets $2thecandle: calls $2Four to a flush suckes, but I call because the pot's huge.*** SHOW DOWN ***jMoNeY_1: shows [Kh Ks] (a flush, King high)thecandle: mucks hand jMoNeY_1 collected $33 from pot/shrug, behind the whole way. AK vs KK and the case king hitting the board hapens.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Qc Ah]Painter_J: calls $1agonndy: folds Chisness: folds thecandle: raises $1 to $2Havoc51: folds jMoNeY_1: raises $1 to $3SSommer: folds dkg62: folds Tayvl: folds Painter_J: folds thecandle: calls $1I raise with AQ, it gets three-bet.*** FLOP *** [2h Tc 3d]thecandle: checks jMoNeY_1: bets $1thecandle: calls $1Bet, call.*** TURN *** [2h Tc 3d] [4d]thecandle: checks jMoNeY_1: bets $2thecandle: calls $2Bet call.*** RIVER *** [2h Tc 3d 4d] [6c]thecandle: checks jMoNeY_1: bets $2thecandle: calls $2*** SHOW DOWN ***jMoNeY_1: shows [Kd Ad] (high card Ace)thecandle: mucks hand jMoNeY_1 collected $17.75 from potBet call, AK beats my AQ.I should have raised the flop.So in the 40 hands or so that I played at $1/$2, AK vs KK and AQ vs AK so far.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Kd Kh]thecandle: raises $1 to $2Havoc51: folds jMoNeY_1: folds RawJumboJack: calls $2SSommer: raises $1 to $3dkg62: folds agonndy: folds Chisness: calls $2thecandle: raises $1 to $4Betting is cappedRawJumboJack: calls $2SSommer: calls $1Chisness: calls $1I get it capped pre-flop with KK.*** FLOP *** [3s 6c Js]doc12980 leaves the tableChisness: checks thecandle: bets $1RawJumboJack: folds SSommer: raises $1 to $2Chisness: folds thecandle: calls $1Bet raise call.*** TURN *** [3s 6c Js] [As]thecandle: checks SSommer: bets $2thecandle: calls $2*** RIVER *** [3s 6c Js As] [Qh]thecandle: checks SSommer: bets $2thecandle: calls $2*** SHOW DOWN ***SSommer: shows [Ac Ad] (three of a kind, Aces)thecandle: mucks hand SSommer collected $27.50 from potI check/call it down and it's KK vs AA.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Qd Js]RawJumboJack: calls $1SSommer: folds Stu94: folds doc12980: calls $1Painter_J: folds agonndy: folds Chisness: folds thecandle: calls $1Havoc51: folds jMoNeY_1: checks I limp on the button with JQ.*** FLOP *** [Kh Th Ks]jMoNeY_1: checks RawJumboJack: checks doc12980: bets $1thecandle: calls $1jMoNeY_1: folds RawJumboJack: calls $1I call one on the flop with the OESD.*** TURN *** [Kh Th Ks] [9d]RawJumboJack: checks doc12980: checks thecandle: bets $2RawJumboJack: raises $2 to $4doc12980: folds thecandle: raises $2 to $6RawJumboJack: calls $2I hit it and three-bet a raise on the turn.*** RIVER *** [Kh Th Ks 9d] [3s]RawJumboJack: checks thecandle: bets $2RawJumboJack: calls $2*** SHOW DOWN ***thecandle: shows [Qd Js] (a straight, Nine to King)RawJumboJack: mucks hand thecandle collected $22.50 from potHe has a slowplayed KJ.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Ks Jd]Havoc51: folds jMoNeY_1: folds RawJumboJack: raises $1 to $2SSommer: folds Stu94: folds doc12980: folds Painter_J: folds agonndy: folds Chisness: folds thecandle: calls $1I defend with KJ heads up.*** FLOP *** [Jh 2h 4c]thecandle: checks RawJumboJack: bets $1thecandle: raises $1 to $2RawJumboJack: raises $1 to $3thecandle: calls $1Hit a jack and raise.*** TURN *** [Jh 2h 4c] [Js]thecandle: bets $2RawJumboJack: calls $2Bet out when I hit trips.*** RIVER *** [Jh 2h 4c Js] [9d]thecandle: bets $2RawJumboJack: raises $2 to $4thecandle: calls $2*** SHOW DOWN ***RawJumboJack: shows [9s 9c] (a full house, Nines full of Jacks)thecandle: mucks hand RawJumboJack collected $21.50 from potThen lose when 99 hits a two outer on the river.For those of you who think you should move up because you don't like being sucked out on in .25/.50....It doesn't get any better, you know :PAnyway, more next time.ResultsStarting Bankroll: $285.82Ending Bankroll: $305.61Playtime: no idea. Net: $19ishBB/100: Not sure.

[gadjet 11]

Ooooh... great post smash... smoochie smoochie...*just trying to be first*...

[gadjet 11]

Smash, are you sure you don't call down too many hands even when you should know you're beat? i.e. A on the board over your Kings... 4 card flush... and the like?

[Vade 0]

Wow, that first hand looks more like something Jasyon or wrto would do, because I'm not used to that kind of aggression. Congrats on getting paid off though :)Other than then, coming out ahead despite losing several monster vs monster confrontations is always positive.

[gobears 0]

*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Qc Ah]Painter_J: calls $1agonndy: foldsChisness: foldsthecandle: raises $1 to $2Havoc51: foldsjMoNeY_1: raises $1 to $3SSommer: foldsdkg62: foldsTayvl: foldsPainter_J: foldsthecandle: calls $1I raise with AQ, it gets three-bet.*** FLOP *** [2h Tc 3d]thecandle: checksjMoNeY_1: bets $1thecandle: calls $1Bet, call.*** TURN *** [2h Tc 3d] [4d]thecandle: checksjMoNeY_1: bets $2thecandle: calls $2Bet call.*** RIVER *** [2h Tc 3d 4d] [6c]thecandle: checksjMoNeY_1: bets $2thecandle: calls $2*** SHOW DOWN ***jMoNeY_1: shows [Kd Ad] (high card Ace)thecandle: mucks handjMoNeY_1 collected $17.75 from pot

Smash, he three bets pre-flop and then you called it down. Would you ever fold this after the turn card? You only have A high; wondering in what situation you would let it go.

*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Ks Jd]Havoc51: foldsjMoNeY_1: foldsRawJumboJack: raises $1 to $2SSommer: foldsStu94: foldsdoc12980: foldsPainter_J: foldsagonndy: foldsChisness: foldsthecandle: calls $1I defend with KJ heads up.

If one more person was in, would you still call pre-flop or let it go?

[eniven 0]

Agreed...I don't remember seeing you play a hand like the first one at any lower limit...What is it about 1/2 or this table in particular that makes the situation different?

[KDawgCometh 2]

Agreed...I don't remember seeing you play a hand like the first one at any lower limit...What is it about 1/2 or this table in particular that makes the situation different?

1/2 is more aggressive, plain and simple

[gadjet 11]

Agreed...I don't remember seeing you play a hand like the first one at any lower limit...What is it about 1/2 or this table in particular that makes the situation different?

1/2 is more aggressive, plain and simple

That is ridiculous... you're trying to tell me that there is a fundamental gameplay change between .25/.50 and .50/1 ? Oh man, I take it you're a big Smash suppporter...

[JFarrell20 1]

*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Qd Js]RawJumboJack: calls $1SSommer: folds Stu94: folds doc12980: calls $1Painter_J: folds agonndy: folds Chisness: folds thecandle: calls $1Havoc51: folds jMoNeY_1: checks I limp on the button with JQ.*** FLOP *** [Kh Th Ks]jMoNeY_1: checks RawJumboJack: checks doc12980: bets $1thecandle: calls $1jMoNeY_1: folds RawJumboJack: calls $1I call one on the flop with the OESD.

With 4 people in the pot here, and about a 32% chance to hit (we'll say at least 25% to hit if you discount some Aces), don't you want to raise in a 4-way pot? I guess not because two guys checked before you so you aren't guaranteed to get them to call a raise. It would be different if they'd already called .5BB. Is that correct? Or does it have more to do with not wanting to pay off a potential boat or quads?

[KDawgCometh 2]

Agreed...I don't remember seeing you play a hand like the first one at any lower limit...What is it about 1/2 or this table in particular that makes the situation different?

1/2 is more aggressive, plain and simple

That is ridiculous... you're trying to tell me that there is a fundamental gameplay change between .25/.50 and .50/1 ? Oh man, I take it you're a big Smash suppporter...

no I'm not a big smash supporter, its just trhat .5/1 is more passive then 1/2. So when you come up with a real question or argument rather then a weak flame say it, if not you should upshut. BTW 2/4 is much more aggressive than 1/2, if you don't believe me then play each level for a week and tell me different

[gadjet 11]

Agreed...I don't remember seeing you play a hand like the first one at any lower limit...What is it about 1/2 or this table in particular that makes the situation different?

1/2 is more aggressive, plain and simple

That is ridiculous... you're trying to tell me that there is a fundamental gameplay change between .25/.50 and .50/1 ? Oh man, I take it you're a big Smash suppporter...

no I'm not a big smash supporter, its just trhat .5/1 is more passive then 1/2. So when you come up with a real question or argument rather then a weak flame say it, if not you should upshut. BTW 2/4 is much more aggressive than 1/2, if you don't believe me then play each level for a week and tell me different

I've played every level from .01/.02 all the way up to $30/60... and seeing how your assertion isn't based on anything to begin with I don't have any responsibility to actually prove you wrong... I can be free to flame away because your comment is ludicrous.

[allinbluff35 0]

I can be free to flame away because your comment is ludicrous.GO GO GADGET FLAME

[KDawgCometh 2]

I can be free to flame away because your comment is ludicrous.GO GO GADGET FLAME

lol. I too have played up to 30/60 and yes it does get more tight and aggressive as you go up. God job gidget

[Smasharoo 0]

With 4 people in the pot here, and about a 32% chance to hit (we'll say at least 25% to hit if you discount some Aces), don't you want to raise in a 4-way pot? It loses value on a paired board where KT is a real possiblity and AK is a not out of the question possiblity.

[Smasharoo 0]

If one more person was in, would you still call pre-flop or let it go?I'd have let it go if someone had cold called the raise, and obviously if someone three-bet.

[Smasharoo 0]

That is ridiculous... you're trying to tell me that there is a fundamental gameplay change between .25/.50 and .50/1 ? Oh man, I take it you're a big Smash suppporter...Jealousy is so funny.I laugh and laugh when I read posts like this one.

[elkang 0]

I've played every level from .01/.02 all the way up to $30/60... and seeing how your assertion isn't based on anything to begin with I don't have any responsibility to actually prove you wrong... I can be free to flame away because your comment is ludicrous.

What is funny is that his assertion with a reason is listed right in your post. He even calls you out and shows you how you can disprove him. Consequently other posters have agreed. Regardless of the proof of an original poster, one should always reply back with a coherent argument to elevate the argument.You've just made yourself a "self-righteous ass", by proclaiming self-knowledge while denying and misreading what someone just posted. You even got the limits wrong! Doubly so, for doing it more than once on these forums. Sorry to call a spade a spade and run... but gotta go.

[jtwoms 0]

Hey Smash or anyone else,I have a question about something that has been bugging me. What do you do when you call a raise, then someone behind you raises. Do you normally fold in that spot or what. Say your in the cut-off with Q-J and you call a raise by MP, and then the button re-raises. This might be really inchorent so just feel free to ask me if I need to clarify.Thanks,JT

[KDawgCometh 2]

Hey Smash or anyone else,I have a question about something that has been bugging me. What do you do when you call a raise, then someone behind you raises. Do you normally fold in that spot or what. Say your in the cut-off with Q-J and you call a raise by MP, and then the button re-raises. This might be really inchorent so just feel free to ask me if I need to clarify.Thanks,JT

I won't call three bets with KQo, I know that at best I am a 50/50 and that's only if they have Jacks or tens. I might be more facing AQ AK QQ KK or AA. Therefore I'm dominated. You shouldn't call raises with QJ to begin with as there are more ways to be dominated

[Ebonwoulfe 0]

How is calling down with AQ just because you put in the first raise preflop a +EV play? I mean I play quite a bit of 3/6, should I call down with AQ in this spot? I know that table dynamics might have something to do with it, but it would still only make sense if you've been raising a helluva lot of pots and might be gettin' disrespekted, so that might be the reason, but comon'... if you're gonna disrespect the low limits, do you really think that calling down with AQ is a good idea? Are you hoping he just had an overplayed AJ or K-something? You put $5 in on some pretty weak hopes.Or AK on a three-flush (then four-flush) board?I mean, in these situations, IF you're not already behind because they have a pair or a flush, you have to realize that two of your outs are dead because they're the fourth heart on the board. This gives you a measley 4 clean outs. Wooppee. I know you put in a lot of bets preflop, but I think players aren't making it to the flop with crappy hands.You overplayed AK against the (also overplayed) 89s, you called down AQ when you had no piece, you called with a pair of kings, A kicker to someone who capped preflop, bet the flop, three bet the turn, and bet the river with a four-flush on the board in a pot with a board that you opponent seemed to be quite content with that only hit you once.Your .50/1.00 play today can be summed up in one phrase: Overplaying big cards. I don't know your justification, but you would bitch at anyone else in this forum for these types of plays. Are they really a result of the play at higher limits? I mean, seriously, you mention, ONCE, that suckouts happen at .50/1.00 and that was when a 99 hit his two-outer against your JK. How many outs did you have when you had AK against the KK with a heart? Two. I know the situation is different, but you drew at exactly the same number of outs that your opponent did, and I don't know why. I guess you were just disrespecting your opponents today.What is your reason for these sorts of plays? I mean, I know these were big pots, but hell, half of the money in them WAS YOURS! Money saved spends exactly the same as money earned.You point out your mistakes that cost you the pot. Now it's time to trim up on the mistakes that cost you some bets.

[eniven 0]

So if you've already cold called two bets with KQo, you'd fold if re-raised to three bets behind you?Thanks.

[Ebonwoulfe 0]

Hey Smash or anyone else,I have a question about something that has been bugging me. What do you do when you call a raise, then someone behind you raises. Do you normally fold in that spot or what. Say your in the cut-off with Q-J and you call a raise by MP, and then the button re-raises. This might be really inchorent so just feel free to ask me if I need to clarify.Thanks,JT

Simple. Avoid the problem altogether by not calling two cold in the cutoff with QJ. It's not great, it doesn't play all too well heads up... all you have is position.

[cmstaab 0]

Hey Smash or anyone else,I have a question about something that has been bugging me. What do you do when you call a raise, then someone behind you raises. Do you normally fold in that spot or what. Say your in the cut-off with Q-J and you call a raise by MP, and then the button re-raises. This might be really inchorent so just feel free to ask me if I need to clarify.Thanks,JT

I'm not Smash but I will try to help. First, you shouldn't be calling 2 bets cold with QJ, it isn't a very strong hand. But if you happen to for some reason and there is a raise behind you, you should call one more.

[Ebonwoulfe 0]

So if you've already cold called two bets with KQo, you'd fold if re-raised to three bets behind you?Thanks.

Yeah, if you're into calling two bets cold with KQo, you might as well call the third bet with KQo. At this point, there's 5 bets in the pot and you have 1 more to call. It doens't play well heads-up in exactly the same way JQ doesn't play well heads-up. If you hit your pair, your opponent probably won't put any more in the pot unless he's beating you.If you feel compelled to play it, at least raise. Your opponent might misread you for AK and if an A falls and he has a pp you might be able to win it by betting.

[augmented 0]

hey smash, i reall like all your posts and its really educational to all of us. but, today i noticed you making a lot of calls when you were beat, and even chasing a bit much. the first hand where you had AK, you were drawing reallllllly slim after the flop yet you raised and called all the way through, only to get lucky on the end. i totally respect your play in general, but with that hand, and the AQ hand, and even the JQ hand, you may not have brought your A game today. does anyone agree with this? smash, your thoughts, anything you woulda done differently or regret doing?