tylerc, on Wednesday, March 22nd, 2006, 5:02 PM, said:
i think the only part i liked about my original line is betting the river. i figured i sucked out on the river to some pp or 7 and it was a bet for value. the only hand that i could reasonably see losing to was and ace and i thought it was improbable since he didnt rse the turn. as for threebetting i think it is bad. what do you think about betting the turn vs checking it if i didnt 3bet. if you check do you ckrse or just fold here thinking he has to have a ace or isnt folding for **** and you need to improve but maybe now have up to ten outs but probably 4? im starting to think posting this hand was stupid because it is way too read dependant. sorry if ive wasted your time. it did get me to think about it more though so i guess i win in the end. yeah me.
If I've somehow made it that far, I'm not folding when I pair up.A bet is ok, but I would really really hate to be raised on the end here, because then I think you HAVE to fold.Here is my take on this hand:Your PFR tells him that you have good cards. The flop came with a paired board, which decreases the likelihood that you hit the flop, him as well. He wants to test you to see if you actually have a hand. He probably has a PP < J. You three bet telling him you don't believe him and that you have a hand. So good so far. I like it. The problem is he calls the 3-bet. He very well could have the J, and wants you to take the lead, planning on popping the turn or the river.Clearly, once you get to the turn, you have to continue to show the strength you did on the flop. Of course, we have to fold to a raise as well. Ok, he just calls. He clearly wants to take his hand to showdown now, and he still might be planning a raise on the river, and all we have is K-high.River comes, ok, I've paired my top card, but really, I have no idea where I am. I'm hoping that he has a small PP or a 7 and wants to go to showdown, but since the A came on the turn, he must know that if I just had overcards, I very likely paired up with the A. I really don't want to have to fold after investing so much into this pot and then finally catching a pair. I'm torn between bet/folding, and check/calling though. I think he's aggressive enough to bet it if we check to him though, hoping that we fold our QQ or something like that. I think the river should be a c/c.Just my 2 cents.- ZachPS - I don't play 10/20.