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#1 David_Nicoson

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Posted 18 March 2006 - 05:25 PM

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx
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BB ($276.60)
UTG ($214.40)
UTG+1 ($194.70)
UTG+2 ($87)
MP1 ($169.55)
MP2 ($197.60)
MP3 ($161.80)
Hero ($265.15)
Button ($106.50)
SB ($75.15)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K icon_suit_spade.gif , J icon_suit_spade.gif .
5 folds, MP3 calls $2, Hero calls $2, 1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($8) K icon_suit_club.gif , 3 icon_suit_spade.gif , 6 icon_suit_spade.gif (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets $8, MP3 folds, Hero raises to $25, SB folds, BB calls $17.

Turn: ($58) 5 icon_suit_spade.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $25, BB calls $25.

River: ($108) J icon_suit_heart.gif (2 players)
BB bets $100, Hero . . .
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Posted 18 March 2006 - 05:54 PM

What are you worried about?

Discounting the str flush, you have the 2nd nuts. Easy call.
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Posted 18 March 2006 - 06:10 PM

QUOTE (MasterLJ @ Saturday, March 18th, 2006, 8:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What are you worried about?

Discounting the str flush, you have the 2nd nuts. Easy call.

How about the turn? Bet more or less there?
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Posted 18 March 2006 - 06:17 PM

QUOTE (David_Nicoson @ Sunday, March 19th, 2006, 1:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx
(plus space adding by Dave and perl script)

BB ($276.60)
UTG ($214.40)
UTG+1 ($194.70)
UTG+2 ($87)
MP1 ($169.55)
MP2 ($197.60)
MP3 ($161.80)
Hero ($265.15)
Button ($106.50)
SB ($75.15)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K icon_suit_spade.gif , J icon_suit_spade.gif .
5 folds, MP3 calls $2, Hero calls $2, 1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($8) K icon_suit_club.gif , 3 icon_suit_spade.gif , 6 icon_suit_spade.gif (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets $8, MP3 folds, Hero raises to $25, SB folds, BB calls $17.

Turn: ($58) 5 icon_suit_spade.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $25, BB calls $25.

River: ($108) J icon_suit_heart.gif (2 players)
BB bets $100, Hero . . .


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Posted 19 March 2006 - 10:29 AM

Uh......easy call. As for the turn...maybe bet a little more. 35 maybe. 40. Don't wanna get into a habit of betting small when you have a monster and betting bigger when you have a hand that you wouldn't mind taking the pot down immediately with...don't want to have opponents picking up betting patterns.
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#6 David_Nicoson

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Posted 19 March 2006 - 11:36 AM

QUOTE (David_Nicoson @ Saturday, March 18th, 2006, 8:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx
(plus space adding by Dave and perl script)

BB ($276.60)
UTG ($214.40)
UTG+1 ($194.70)
UTG+2 ($87)
MP1 ($169.55)
MP2 ($197.60)
MP3 ($161.80)
Hero ($265.15)
Button ($106.50)
SB ($75.15)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K icon_suit_spade.gif , J icon_suit_spade.gif .
5 folds, MP3 calls $2, Hero calls $2, 1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($8) K icon_suit_club.gif , 3 icon_suit_spade.gif , 6 icon_suit_spade.gif (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets $8, MP3 folds, Hero raises to $25, SB folds, BB calls $17.

Turn: ($58) 5 icon_suit_spade.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $25, BB calls $25.



River: ($108) J icon_suit_heart.gif (2 players)
BB bets $100, Hero . . .

I called.
BB had 4 icon_suit_spade.gif 2 icon_suit_spade.gif for a straight flush.

This is probably just a crap happens kind of hand, but . . .

I have to figure he's drawing, giving the flop action. And it's probably a good draw, because he was willing to bet it and then call a reasonable bet to chase it.

He checks the turn and then flat calls, but what the hell is that? A icon_suit_spade.gif Kx maybe, but it seems to me he has a flush here.

I don't really regret the call on the end. This hand just sucked.
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Posted 21 March 2006 - 06:42 PM

i probably push the river and go busto. i also bet the turn a bit harder, but it wouldn't have mattered in this hand.

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Posted 22 March 2006 - 05:37 PM

Bad beat. He hit one out, nothing you can do.

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Posted 22 March 2006 - 09:00 PM

When he leads for 100 at the river i definitely push...if he has the one or two hands that beat me so be it....his range is too wide to not at least call...personally i push in this spot and look to get paid off against a weaker flush, two pair, or set...


Anyone else think its weird the guy leads out for the huge bet of $100 with the absolute nuts? Id bet half the pot in his position, maybe less, and hope to get raised or called...there are alot of hands you will muck to his $100 bet that you would still call $50 with

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Posted 23 March 2006 - 02:11 PM

QUOTE (JCans23 @ Wednesday, March 22nd, 2006, 9:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
When he leads for 100 at the river i definitely push...if he has the one or two hands that beat me so be it....his range is too wide to not at least call...personally i push in this spot and look to get paid off against a weaker flush, two pair, or set...
Anyone else think its weird the guy leads out for the huge bet of $100 with the absolute nuts? Id bet half the pot in his position, maybe less, and hope to get raised or called...there are alot of hands you will muck to his $100 bet that you would still call $50 with

I don't think I'd push, knowing that I probably only get called by better hands. I think the reason he bet what he did was that he thought he was up against the ace-high flush, though if it was me with that read, I'm check-raising probably.

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Posted 23 March 2006 - 02:30 PM

QUOTE (srblan @ Thursday, March 23rd, 2006, 2:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't think I'd push, knowing that I probably only get called by better hands. I think the reason he bet what he did was that he thought he was up against the ace-high flush, though if it was me with that read, I'm check-raising probably.


I agree and disagree here. This player has pot stuck himself w/most hands besides an all out bluff. I'm not folding an 8 high flush here for an extra 100 in villain's positiion.

However, I'm really leery of his bet. w/o information otherwise, I usually interpret this type of "wake up" bet as significant strength. I think calling is the proper play here.

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Posted 23 March 2006 - 02:35 PM

QUOTE (Scott3705 @ Thursday, March 23rd, 2006, 2:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
However, I'm really leery of his bet. w/o information otherwise, I usually interpret this type of "wake up" bet as significant strength. I think calling is the proper play here.

I agree, and I would only try a check-raise here against a pretty aggressive player. I don't feel like k-high flush would check behind. The $100 bet just seems really suspicious to me, and less than king high might consider folding.




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