It's like 10,000 spoons when all you need is a knife

[DrTongue 0]

Can't say that either one of these hands is a horrible beat but when you put them together in the same sit and go... After I worked like heck to dig out of the first beat, king jack knifes me in the back again!!Isn't it ironic? Don't you think?Freaking black fly in my Chardonnay!!!Seat 8 is the buttonTotal number of players : 5 Seat 8: nmarchi2 ( $445 )Seat 5: squeegedude ( $1035 )Seat 6: DomBrodka ( $915 )Seat 10: DrTongue ( $1200 )Seat 4: phoxxxman ( $4405 )Trny:9946806 Level:3Blinds(25/50)** Dealing down cards **Dealt to DrTongue [ Ac Ah ]squeegedude calls [50].DomBrodka folds.nmarchi2 folds.DrTongue raises [175].phoxxxman folds.squeegedude calls [150].** Dealing Flop ** [ 2s, 5h, Js ]DrTongue is all-In [1000]squeegedude is all-In [835]** Dealing Turn ** [ Ks ]** Dealing River ** [ 8h ]DrTongue shows [ Ac, Ah ] a pair of aces.squeegedude shows [ Jh, Kh ] two pairs, kings and jacks.DrTongue wins 165 chips from side pot #1 with a pair of aces.squeegedude wins 2120 chips from the main pot with two pairs, kings and jacks.Seat 4 is the buttonTotal number of players : 4 Seat 5: squeegedude ( $955 )Seat 6: DomBrodka ( $780 )Seat 10: DrTongue ( $980 )Seat 4: phoxxxman ( $5285 )Trny:9946806 Level:5Blinds(100/200)** Dealing down cards **Dealt to DrTongue [ Jh Kc ]DrTongue is all-In [980]phoxxxman calls [980].squeegedude folds.DomBrodka folds.** Dealing Flop ** [ Qh, 9c, 3h ]phoxxxman: ill help you out** Dealing Turn ** [ 3s ]** Dealing River ** [ As ]DrTongue shows [ Jh, Kc ] a pair of threes.phoxxxman shows [ 5d, 5s ] two pairs, fives and threes.DrTongue finished in fourth place.phoxxxman wins 2260 chips from the main pot with two pairs, fives and threes.

[Vade 0]

1st hand the only thing you could do is raise bigger preflop, to 5X the BB, but that probably wouldn't have done any good.Your opponent had TPSTK, and was going nowhere2nd hand, is not a bad beat whatsoever.I would have waited for a better spot then UTG with KJo for trying to steal the blinds, because you are second in chips!Folding is a better playYour opponent had a pair AND was the chip leader, easy call for him

[Guest XXEddie]

Seat 8 is the button Total number of players : 5 Seat 8: nmarchi2 ( $445 ) Seat 5: squeegedude ( $1035 ) Seat 6: DomBrodka ( $915 ) Seat 10: DrTongue ( $1200 ) Seat 4: phoxxxman ( $4405 ) Trny:9946806 Level:3 Blinds(25/50) ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to DrTongue [ Ac Ah ] squeegedude calls [50]. DomBrodka folds. nmarchi2 folds. DrTongue raises [175]. phoxxxman folds. squeegedude calls [150]. ** Dealing Flop ** [ 2s, 5h, Js ] DrTongue is all-In [1000] squeegedude is all-In [835] ** Dealing Turn ** [ Ks ] ** Dealing River ** [ 8h ] DrTongue shows [ Ac, Ah ] a pair of aces. squeegedude shows [ Jh, Kh ] two pairs, kings and jacks. DrTongue wins 165 chips from side pot #1 with a pair of aces. squeegedude wins 2120 chips from the main pot with two pairs, kings and jacks. If my math is correct the pot size is about 400? and you bet 1000??? this really loks like a bluff. you probably woulda ended up all in anyway, but betting like 300 here gives him, and you(if he calls and youre able to fold the turn) a chance to avoid this

[DrTongue 0]

I would have waited for a better spot then UTG with KJo for trying to steal the blinds, because you are second in chips!Folding is a better playYour opponent had a pair AND was the chip leader, easy call for him

I see your point, although I wasn't 2nd in chips materially considering the blinds were 100/200. I was probably going to have to take a few more pots. The chip leader had been playing surprisingly tight and KJo is only a semi-bluff four-handed. Still I wish I had folded. I'm not invoking the bad beat. Just kind of annoyed that I got dinged on opposite sides of KJ in the same tournament.

[DrTongue 0]

If my math is correct the pot size is about 400? and you bet 1000??? this really loks like a bluff. you probably woulda ended up all in anyway, but betting like 300 here gives him, and you(if he calls and youre able to fold the turn) a chance to avoid this

But if he calls me the pot is 2300 and that gives me decent odds, doesn't it? I don't follow all the math sometimes. I've layed down AA, but that would have been a tough fold without a set, flush or straight staring me in the face.

[Downtown Parker 0]

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