redandblack 0 Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 Online play has entered the B&M worldWSOP Tourny yesterday......KJ vs. 97 other guy all in and flops a 9A10 vs. 10-9 other guy allin flops a 9 66 vs. 55 other guy all in and turns a 5JJ vs. 104 suited guy goes all in on the first blind level when he flops four to the flush. I call. SURPRISE! he turns the flush.99 vs. 77 Im all in this time......the dealer lets my think my hand finally holds up before slaming a 7 down on the river.today cash game.....5-5 no limitAdKd v.s 4c5c pre flop I raise UTG to 20dude calls from middle posistionflop.....kx 10c 7cI bet 50he goes all in for 130 moreI callnaturally he hits his flush draw.(and then donks it all to someone else within 10 hands)And then my favorite hand of the day.....Me: KK UTG raise to 20Villan: AK UTG +1 reriases to 75folded to me I go all inhe has about $350 more and instacalls.(PAAAAAAAAAAARTYPOKER)ofcourse he spikes an ace on the flop.Someone says "nice hand" to himhis reply......"i know"I wanted to tackle him and shove a stack of my $5 chips down his throat.This has how the cards have been runing for 2 months. 7 out of 10 times i have someone all in and they have the worst hand they come from behind.P.S. I got in a car accident on the way home from the casino.....some mexican rear ended me.......he had no insurance. Link to post Share on other sites
SunDrop 0 Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 mexicans are -ev. Link to post Share on other sites
adammc 0 Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 You should have pulled the trigger. Ha ha ha. I kid. But really, nobody cares. Link to post Share on other sites
doublemeup 0 Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 You should've shot yourself. "I keed! I keed! I make a little joke, I joke with you....." Link to post Share on other sites
SunDrop 0 Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 I didn't know there was actually a Bad Beat forum. Link to post Share on other sites
redandblack 0 Posted March 4, 2006 Author Share Posted March 4, 2006 i would have pulled the trigger but with my luck it would jam. Link to post Share on other sites
kevin2536 0 Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 i would have pulled the trigger but with my luck it would jam.there is only one way to find out Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 there is only one way to find outPOTY Link to post Share on other sites
flintsword 4 Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 You have cleverly disguised a series of bad beat stories as a contribution to FCP, shame on you. Check your pokertracker stats and you should see that you are ahead of the game with the hand matchups you listed.Take a vacation at www.pokerstove.com and you will be reassured.But you know this. The bad beat stories hide your question.I want to be positive here. You *must* know that occasionally these things happen. Coins flip on both sides and even a huge edge is just that, an edge, not a certainty.Constructive comment: "Did your table image and general behaviour cause people to call even longshots against you?"By this I mean that if you were (for whatever reason) playing very loose, your opponents would put you on a very broad range of hands. This means you will get called or raised more often because your opponents feel you may be holding weaker hands than they do.This is a *subtle* reason why certain players have more bad beats than other, similarly skilled fellow poker players: They are perceived as being looser. Ask all of your friends to honestly describe your play. Ask them all what kind of GENERAL image you give out when at the table. Ask them open-ended questions then get quiet and listen a lot.You may well be shocked by the frank answers you will get.Ask you friends killer questions, such as "What do I have to do to be percieved as a more dangerous player?"I asked many of my friends this question to improve my play. Once you sweep away the good-buddy, friendly answers ("learn that a flush is stronger than a pair" & "A pane of glass is never dangerous") you will get answers that are solid platinum. Most people consider themselves a lot tighter than they actually are. I got one very frank answer that I would be perceived as a dangerous player once people learned that I do not play random junk too often. I visited my pokertracker stats and came to the sad conclusion that I was indeed playing sometimes like a squirrel on four expressos, and my opponents had picked up on it.Poker is sometimes just learning about yourself. You discover your leaks when you are ready to face the facts.There is a parallel in chess. Good players getting outplayed in endings but not knowing why. You ask questions. Sometimes it is something subtle, such as putting all your pawns early in the game on (say) white squares and keeping the bishop that travels on black squares so you have more mobility. Subtle. You only learn this kind of subtle, long-term thinking when you are ready to question your play.I make this comment to make you think about your post a different way, and in no way am I commenting negatively on your play.There *is* also a mathemetical basis for calling someone who is loose, and this was best explained by Paul Samuels one of his excellent articles. Paul asks the following question:"Could I, by estimating the percentage of his raised hands, calculate his likely hand given a raise on his part? This is really interesting!" In other words, you *measure his loosness*, then raise or call him when you have a better hand than his (lower) median hand. Paul Samuels describes it a LOT better, so here is the link to the article.http://www.pokerpages.com/articles/archives/samuel15.htmIf you are precieved as tighter and/or dangerous, you will not be called or raised as often and if you opponent folds, ... of course there cannot be a bad beat to tilt you or bore your friends ... :rolleyes:Hope this helps and you take it as a positve and constructive comment on your post.Sincerely, Link to post Share on other sites
Billy 0 Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 Putting a gun to your head is definitely -EV. Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 You have cleverly disguised a series of bad beat stories as a contribution to FCP, shame on you. Check your pokertracker stats and you should see that you are ahead of the game with the hand matchups you listed.Take a vacation at www.pokerstove.com and you will be reassured.But you know this. The bad beat stories hide your question.I want to be positive here. You *must* know that occasionally these things happen. Coins flip on both sides and even a huge edge is just that, an edge, not a certainty.Constructive comment: "Did your table image and general behaviour cause people to call even longshots against you?"By this I mean that if you were (for whatever reason) playing very loose, your opponents would put you on a very broad range of hands. This means you will get called or raised more often because your opponents feel you may be holding weaker hands than they do.This is a *subtle* reason why certain players have more bad beats than other, similarly skilled fellow poker players: They are perceived as being looser. Ask all of your friends to honestly describe your play. Ask them all what kind of GENERAL image you give out when at the table. Ask them open-ended questions then get quiet and listen a lot.You may well be shocked by the frank answers you will get.Ask you friends killer questions, such as "What do I have to do to be percieved as a more dangerous player?"I asked many of my friends this question to improve my play. Once you sweep away the good-buddy, friendly answers ("learn that a flush is stronger than a pair" & "A pane of glass is never dangerous") you will get answers that are solid platinum. Most people consider themselves a lot tighter than they actually are. I got one very frank answer that I would be perceived as a dangerous player once people learned that I do not play random junk too often. I visited my pokertracker stats and came to the sad conclusion that I was indeed playing sometimes like a squirrel on four expressos, and my opponents had picked up on it.Poker is sometimes just learning about yourself. You discover your leaks when you are ready to face the facts.There is a parallel in chess. Good players getting outplayed in endings but not knowing why. You ask questions. Sometimes it is something subtle, such as putting all your pawns early in the game on (say) white squares and keeping the bishop that travels on black squares so you have more mobility. Subtle. You only learn this kind of subtle, long-term thinking when you are ready to question your play.I make this comment to make you think about your post a different way, and in no way am I commenting negatively on your play.There *is* also a mathemetical basis for calling someone who is loose, and this was best explained by Paul Samuels one of his excellent articles. Paul asks the following question:"Could I, by estimating the percentage of his raised hands, calculate his likely hand given a raise on his part? This is really interesting!" In other words, you *measure his loosness*, then raise or call him when you have a better hand than his (lower) median hand. Paul Samuels describes it a LOT better, so here is the link to the article.http://www.pokerpages.com/articles/archives/samuel15.htmIf you are precieved as tighter and/or dangerous, you will not be called or raised as often and if you opponent folds, ... of course there cannot be a bad beat to tilt you or bore your friends ... :rolleyes:Hope this helps and you take it as a positve and constructive comment on your post.Sincerely, Okay, I lied. This might actually be the Post of the Year.Well said sir. Link to post Share on other sites
ibuddy 0 Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 lol i couldnt stop laughing about your title LOL Link to post Share on other sites
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