poker1.com 0 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 This is a new subject, concerning poker and todays topic is check-raising, when you want to get full value from your hand.Gennerally you should value bet your hands when you believe that the first bettor if going to come from late position, and you should save your check-raises, when you believe that the player closest to your left, is the one that is going to be doing the betting...Another good tequnique to use is to act like you are going to call, when someone is threatening or attempting to bet and you have a good hand, that you intend to call with. This will often induce the bettor to bet his hand, if he is an inexperienced player in an attempt to get you to fold your hand.This is some of my advice for today.Good luck on all of your poker hands today.LatersJohnny SacAlso...A side note it is often good to bet your good hands, when you are in early position, especially the small blind when you either have a good hand or a good drawing hand, because you want to price the other players into the pot, especially the one's in eary position.You want to price them into the pot so they will get good odds [or bad odds(this is even better)] to get into the pot to draw to their longshots, and other hands, that they might holdThat's all for now.GBJ. Sac Link to post Share on other sites
rwood 0 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 steven you dog Link to post Share on other sites
Eclypse 0 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Sorry in advance for all the flaming you're about to receive. Link to post Share on other sites
alanstats 0 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Wow. Johny I have never thought of any of this stuff. Your advice may well turn my game around. Enlightening. Truly Enlightening. I'm off to the local B & M to test out the waters. With your help I may be able to quit my job andTP/MM Link to post Share on other sites
rwood 0 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 check raise?isnt that what the pro's do on wpt sometimes? with a wired pair or something that has to do with the speed limit... Link to post Share on other sites
Kangaroo 0 Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 This is a new subject, concerning poker and todays topic is check-raising, when you want to get full value from your hand.so you're going to be doing this daily? Link to post Share on other sites
SunDrop 0 Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 I found some info on him...his name is Lauren Butterbrodt and he recently won a seat cover at a charity tournament. He check raised every hand. Link to post Share on other sites
Figger 0 Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 This is a new subject, concerning poker and todays topic is check-raising, when you want to get full value from your hand.blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.blah blah blah blah.blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.LatersJohnny "Sucks" SacAlso...blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blahGBJ. Sac FYP Link to post Share on other sites
belatropic 0 Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 Posting tutorial Link to post Share on other sites
lvpro 0 Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 You're amazing, and I applaud you sir.I've been lurking around here for months, and posting quite a bit in off-topic.Never once have I flamed.But once I started reading your posts...Well, you've driven me out of my normally docile, friendly state, and you're desperately making me want to flame you.Luckily for you, I'm terrible at it, and therefore won't try. I'll leave it to the professionals.Twice in one day, you've elicited this reaction from me. TWICE.Good day, sir. Link to post Share on other sites
cu in 4years Dan 1 Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 "Another good tequnique to use is to act like you are going to call, when someone is threatening or attempting to bet and you have a good hand, that you intend to call with."no u are so wrong its not funny Link to post Share on other sites
GoCryWolfe 0 Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 Thank you David Sklansky and Mike Caro. Link to post Share on other sites
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CardWarfare 4 Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 This is a new subject, concerning poker and todays topic is check-raising, when you want to get full value from your hand.Gennerally you should value bet your hands when you believe that the first bettor if going to come from late position, and you should save your check-raises, when you believe that the player closest to your left, is the one that is going to be doing the betting...Another good tequnique to use is to act like you are going to call, when someone is threatening or attempting to bet and you have a good hand, that you intend to call with. This will often induce the bettor to bet his hand, if he is an inexperienced player in an attempt to get you to fold your hand.This is some of my advice for today.Good luck on all of your poker hands today.LatersJohnny SacAlso...A side note it is often good to bet your good hands, when you are in early position, especially the small blind when you either have a good hand or a good drawing hand, because you want to price the other players into the pot, especially the one's in eary position.You want to price them into the pot so they will get good odds [or bad odds(this is even better)] to get into the pot to draw to their longshots, and other hands, that they might holdThat's all for now.GBJ. SacLEARN, CHAT, AND PLAY WITH THE PROS AT JSAC POKER.COM Link to post Share on other sites
Abbaddabba 0 Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 Holy shit,You're a ****ing genius.Please impregnate me now! Link to post Share on other sites
Flack_attack 0 Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 Also...A side note it is often good to bet your good hands, when you are in early position, especially the small blind when you either have a good hand or a good drawing hand, because you want to price the other players into the pot, especially the one's in eary position.You want to price them into the pot so they will get good odds [or bad odds(this is even better)] to get into the pot to draw to their longshots, and other hands, that they might holdThat's all for now.GBJ. SacI may be going out on a limb here, but this is generally considered whats called a "losing play". Link to post Share on other sites
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Briguy 0 Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 Thank you, Johnny Sac. I used this new concept yesterday for the first time, and had a session that ended up 2BB. I'm no longer going to lose millions, thanks to your sage advice.Also, I really liked Under Siege. Every great actor should take a role as a ninja/spy Red Seal chef. Such a role is more difficult and prestigious than playing Hamlet, I'm told. Link to post Share on other sites
hardkorbeatz 0 Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 it is often good to bet your good handsum i dunno how 2 unquote at this point but um from the above u can see we are dealing with doyle brunson in disquise Link to post Share on other sites
looshle 6 Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 Another good tequnique to use is to act like you are going to call, when someone is threatening or attempting to bet and you have a good hand, that you intend to call with.This is probably some of the worst advice I've ever heard.Actling like you are going to call only stops the villian from betting the hands that you can beat. Link to post Share on other sites
poker1.com 0 Posted March 2, 2006 Author Share Posted March 2, 2006 -1My message just got erased on this subject, unfortunately it was a good, message, with a nice rap, I wrote at the end of it, but it got erased when I adjusted my keyboard, but I am not wrong about this, by any means...I am totally right about it, because the other players, will think you have a weak hand and not a strong hand, if you threaten a call, because this is what the weak players, do when they have, weak, hand's, think about it and stop thinking you know everything about poker, Tony, cause you don't...I am the one, and Mike, Daniel, and, the other pro's like Jennifer Harmon, Phil Ivey, Phil Hellmuth, and other pro's like Doyle Brunson, Ted Forest, Men "The Master" Ngyuen, and other pro's like. Scotty "The Master" Ngyuen, Greg Raymer, "The aussie who won the world series this year" and Chris Moneymaker...Know all about this and other teqniques, and tell's at the table, that you can use to make a profit, playing poker, so just trust me on this one...If you think you are going to trick the players, by lying about your hands and trying to fool them, you are absolutely wrong about that, because, they do the same pathetic, stuff, and they, can see right though, what you are doing if you try to do stuff like that.So try to threaten a call if you have a good, or above average, hand and they will bet into, you almost everysingle, time...And don't say I am wrong about something with poker becasue I have been studying and playing for what seem's like 1,000,000 year's and I have a lot of experience, when it, come's to the, game of poker...So take this advice, about value betting (betting your hand's for maximum value, btf, otf, ont, onr...Check-Raising for maximum value, and this threatening to make a call...And turn the Soprano's off for a couple of day's and you will be making so much money playing poker, you won't even believe what your making is possible...That's all of the Advice I have for now...Good Luck to You, Sir, and the other players, who post here, and at other Forums...Your, Bud...Johnny Sac / Johnny Cab... ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))Jonathan Jacob Kerr The 1st...)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) Link to post Share on other sites
looshle 6 Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 Do you have any idea as to how many people have no ****ing clue what they are doing?Nevermind if holding your chips out means you are strong or weak.I could use just the reverse on you and say " well he knows that if i hold my chips out that I am trying to get you to induce you to bet so instead ill act like I'm not going to call"All you are doing is reversing a tell, which will only work on people who know what the tell is.You could just keep going round and round with it and act like its a sophistacted play when its really not. Alot of people have no clue about anything and thinking about it that much is completely pointless.Its like saying "Well im gonna sit back in my chair when I have absoultely nothing"We know what tells are and we know what false tells are. You're trying to tell us that this is a reverse false tell which in fact is just the orginal tell in the first place, you just seem to think that its different becuase you thought of it.You suck and your mother is gay. Link to post Share on other sites
alanstats 0 Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 You, used a ton, of, commas, in your reply, Johnny. More, than, necessary,! Link to post Share on other sites
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