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#1 pokerplayer24

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Posted 28 February 2006 - 12:16 PM

The majority of these hands come from the 2/4 6 max level as I put in a good 5k this weekend upping my 2/4 total to 15k.

More or less just looking for major leaks and not going to post win rate as I feel its pretty unimportant.

Total Hands 25,882

VPIP: 29.46% (7,623 times out of 25,882)

VPIP from SB 44% (2,292 out of 5,209)

Folded SB to steal 75.04%

Folded BB to steal 46.26%

Folded BB to steal HU 39.05%

Went to showdown 39.99%

Won $ at showdown 51.22%

Raised preflop 16.92%

AF

Flop 2.79
Turn 2.22
River 1.37

Total 2.24

Folded to river bet
40.06% (703 times out of 1,755)

When folds hand

No fold 24.9% Preflop 59.79% Flop 7.5% Turn 5% River 2.76%

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Posted 28 February 2006 - 01:27 PM

You fold to a river bet much more than I do. Maybe it is because you are playing close to a 30/20 style and I play a 24/16 style.

But folding to 40% of river bets still seems high. Perhaps you should fold more turns or call more rivers.

Screech might be able to shed some light on this stat. I think he also plays 30/20ish.
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Posted 28 February 2006 - 01:33 PM

nothing sticks out to me.
Obviously, much more aggressive than I.

I certainly disagree that WR is unimportant.
Sure, the value at only 25k hands is getting reliable, but still has a lot of error in it. But in the end it's the ONLY Stat that matters. Trying to play to target certain stats is bad. I KNOW YOU are not doing that, just bringing it up.

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Posted 28 February 2006 - 01:43 PM

QUOTE (Actuary @ Tuesday, February 28th, 2006, 1:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
nothing sticks out to me.
Obviously, much more aggressive than I.

I certainly disagree that WR is unimportant.
Sure, the value at only 25k hands is getting reliable, but still has a lot of error in it. But in the end it's the ONLY Stat that matters. Trying to play to target certain stats is bad. I KNOW YOU are not doing that, just bringing it up.


My winrate is at 5.38bb/100 with it being no higher then 6 at any level and no lower then 4. Dont want to come off as one of those people that thinks that a wr over 5 is anywhere near possible to maintain so wasnt going to post it.

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Posted 28 February 2006 - 01:44 PM

QUOTE (pokerplayer24 @ Tuesday, February 28th, 2006, 4:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My winrate is at 5.38bb/100 with it being no higher then 6 at any level and no lower then 4. Dont want to come off as one of those people that thinks that a wr over 5 is anywhere near possible to maintain so wasnt going to post it.

move up

edit: true story - my winrate at 5/10 is 7.5BB/100 over 36 hands.
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Posted 28 February 2006 - 01:48 PM

QUOTE (econ_tim @ Tuesday, February 28th, 2006, 1:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
move up

edit: true story - my winrate at 5/10 is 7.5BB/100 over 36 hands.


Sarcasm or seriousness?

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Posted 28 February 2006 - 01:51 PM

QUOTE (pokerplayer24 @ Tuesday, February 28th, 2006, 4:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sarcasm or seriousness?


both statements are serious - although we can't put tight bounds on your winrate, we can say you are beating 2/4 with probably 99% confidence. and since you've been winning so much your roll is large enough to handle bigger games. so you're giving up winning by staying at 2/4. i say, learn to deal with the 1/3 blind structure.
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Posted 28 February 2006 - 08:38 PM

Anyone else find it interesting that the OP's win (and tie) at SD is so low (barely over 50%) but he folds a ton of rivers?

All i can think of is ur either missing a ton of draws or not folding the turn often enough.

I don't know exactly what to make of it, but maybe someone else has an opinion...
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Posted 28 February 2006 - 08:42 PM

QUOTE (pokerkid @ Tuesday, February 28th, 2006, 11:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anyone else find it interesting that the OP's win (and tie) at SD is so low (barely over 50%) but he folds a ton of rivers?

W$SD near 50% is pretty normal
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Posted 28 February 2006 - 10:45 PM

QUOTE (econ_tim @ Tuesday, February 28th, 2006, 8:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
W$SD near 50% is pretty normal


My impression was it's usually around 60% and that 10% difference from optimal has a decent amonunt of statistical significane.

Geuss i was wrong.
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Posted 28 February 2006 - 11:06 PM

pp24

I jsut meant sometimes we emphasis stats too much and are not able to fully comprehend that other styles work, perhaps
So in the final analyis, your WR is all that matters.... asuming it's a true WR and not lucky streaks... and I know that takes time and stats are a way to measure leaks ahead of time...just some posters are too rigid in determing a leaky stat imo

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Posted 01 March 2006 - 02:29 AM

QUOTE (pokerkid @ Wednesday, March 1st, 2006, 6:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My impression was it's usually around 60% and that 10% difference from optimal has a decent amonunt of statistical significane.

Geuss i was wrong.


60% is way to high. Low 50's is best.

For the OP, your WTSD is at the high end. With your fold to river bet @ 40% (which is spot on) it indicates you may be running hot




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