UTG is apears decent, only been at his table for an orbit or two.
i thought the preflop bet was steep, as well as the flop bet...
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MP2 (t2830)
MP3 (t2525)
CO (t2900)
Button (t310)
SB (t1590)
Hero (t5410)
UTG (t4360)
UTG+1 (t6540)
MP1 (t2835)
Preflop: Hero is BB with [Jh], [Js].
UTG raises to t400, 5 folds, Button calls t310 (All-In), 1 fold, Hero calls t300.
Flop: (t1160) [2h], [5h], [3s] (3 players, 1 all-in)
Hero checks, UTG bets t1000, Hero calls t1000.
Turn: (t3160) [9c] (3 players, 1 all-in)
Hero bets t1500, UTG raises to t2960, Hero calls t1460.
River: (t9080) [9d] (3 players, 1 all-in)
Final Pot: t9080
Jj In Bb, Large Hand
Started by Wingmaster05, Feb 26 2006 03:08 PM
7 replies to this topic
#1
Posted 26 February 2006 - 03:08 PM
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#2
Posted 26 February 2006 - 04:34 PM
I like the call preflop, I might have wanted to take a little control of this hand at some point. The flat call on the flop is curious to me. Was it to bet the turn if it was safe?
I would have probably led out at the flop myself. that being said, my guess is that you got all of his chips and he was running a bluff with AK?
I would have probably led out at the flop myself. that being said, my guess is that you got all of his chips and he was running a bluff with AK?
#3
Posted 26 February 2006 - 04:57 PM
Raise to around 1000 preflop. You are OOP against an UTG raiser and this is the cheapest street to try and get a read. If he reraises, get out, if he calls lead the flop with 1500 , killing two overcard draws. If he still calls try and check it down, if hes still aggro get out. I dont necessarily put him on AK only, and would add QQ+ to the range, and weight them more heavily with this line of play.
With your line its closer to a coin flip between AK and an overpair, because youve been weak all the way and AK may think he's actually good.
With your line its closer to a coin flip between AK and an overpair, because youve been weak all the way and AK may think he's actually good.
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#4
Posted 26 February 2006 - 09:24 PM
I'm raising to around 1200 preflop. If he pushes, then fold. If he calls, then push that flop. You have a great hand to try to isolate, a strong, but not dominating hand. You are really not sure where you are in the hand because of your passive play IMO.
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#5
Posted 27 February 2006 - 05:38 AM
QUOTE (copernicus @ Monday, February 27th, 2006, 8:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Raise to around 1000 preflop. You are OOP against an UTG raiser and this is the cheapest street to try and get a read. If he reraises, get out, if he calls lead the flop with 1500 , killing two overcard draws. If he still calls try and check it down, if hes still aggro get out. I dont necessarily put him on AK only, and would add QQ+ to the range, and weight them more heavily with this line of play.
With your line its closer to a coin flip between AK and an overpair, because youve been weak all the way and AK may think he's actually good.
With your line its closer to a coin flip between AK and an overpair, because youve been weak all the way and AK may think he's actually good.
this is very good advice as always.
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#6
Posted 27 February 2006 - 06:15 AM
I don't like the pre-flop call. I think you should raise there, to hopefully get it heads-up against the all-in. You will be out of position throughout if you don't.
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#7
Posted 27 February 2006 - 08:52 AM
The problem with the hand is you have no information about your opponent. Preflop, you probably should push if you think your hand is good. The call is not a bad choice there BUT, since you're calling, what hand do you put him on? If you think he has a bigger pair, you should have folded preflop.
I think the bad play was on the flop. Just calling. I think you need to move all in on that flop, or fold. I would have probably led out here instead of checking.
I think the bad play was on the flop. Just calling. I think you need to move all in on that flop, or fold. I would have probably led out here instead of checking.
#8
Posted 27 February 2006 - 11:32 PM
I agree with the comments, a prelfop raise would make this hand a little easier.
I didnt bet out on the flop (whoever asked that) because i figured just about everything played back at me. AJ, AQ, AK, all pairs will raise that flop.
At the time i liked the smooth preflop call, mainly because i was thinking i would need a large reraise preflop to define my hand.
Now it seems a little more clear that im going to be clueless on ALL flops that i see and in some difficiult situations.
I didnt bet out on the flop (whoever asked that) because i figured just about everything played back at me. AJ, AQ, AK, all pairs will raise that flop.
At the time i liked the smooth preflop call, mainly because i was thinking i would need a large reraise preflop to define my hand.
Now it seems a little more clear that im going to be clueless on ALL flops that i see and in some difficiult situations.
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