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#1 Breaking Liberty

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Posted 24 February 2006 - 11:51 PM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Hero ($24.75)
UTG ($54.87)
MP ($71.05)
Button ($19.35)
SB ($68.13)

Preflop: Hero is BB with [6s], [5c]. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
1 fold, MP calls $0.25, 1 fold, SB (poster) completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($0.75) [6h], [2c], [6d] (3 players)
SB bets $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, MP folds.

Turn: ($1.25) [2d] (2 players)
SB bets $1, Hero calls $1.

River: ($3.25) [Ah] (2 players)
SB bets $5, Hero raises to $15, SB calls $10.

Final Pot: $33.25

What about my river raise? Too much, not enough? Should I have just pushed?

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#2 Jordan

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Posted 24 February 2006 - 11:56 PM

you can raise up to half his stack here I think.

People are lot more prone to call off half their stack, rather than a push.

I'm a believer in raising big/betting strong in most cases...

if you are questioning your raise, it's def. not too much...3x is the min I'd say...but just keep in mind, ppl are much more prone to call 1/2 their stack than the whole thing...

that's a general rule though..some ppl see thru that...most dont...

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#3 Breaking Liberty

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Posted 25 February 2006 - 12:59 AM

Half their stack for value betting.. that is a GREAT idea at lower level NL and PL games.

I was really wondering what was approriate for value most of the time when I have a strong hand and I know they have something they like too.

Thanks for throwing that out there.
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Posted 25 February 2006 - 03:45 AM

You played it fine he has a strong ace. I think the raise was a good amount.
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Posted 26 February 2006 - 06:49 AM

Good job, and I wouldn't be afraid to raise more.

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Posted 26 February 2006 - 07:17 AM

QUOTE (MarionSauce @ Sunday, February 26th, 2006, 12:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Good job, and I wouldn't be afraid to raise more.


I'm wondering what he had. After two smooth calls, I'm putting you on a 6 and shutting down on the river unless I have you beat.

The raise was fine.

Then again, it's .10/.25 and most of them are morons.

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Posted 26 February 2006 - 10:49 PM

Turn: ($1.25) [2d] (2 players)
SB bets $1, Hero calls $1.


Here is where I think you should raise. I mean seriously. 2 flat calls like that announce the boat, whether its the 6 or 2. Im surprised he paid you off on the river

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Posted 27 February 2006 - 05:14 AM

QUOTE (XXEddie @ Sunday, February 26th, 2006, 10:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Turn: ($1.25) [2d] (2 players)
SB bets $1, Hero calls $1.


Here is where I think you should raise. I mean seriously. 2 flat calls like that announce the boat, whether its the 6 or 2. Im surprised he paid you off on the river


Raise the turn.

You're losing a lot of money against a moderately intelligent player with Ax that's going to check/fold to a river bet--or even check/call the river.
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