tt 4 flush

[Wingmaster05 0]

Villain is crazy loose preflop, tighter post flop58/0/.36 edit: 60 handsParty Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cxPreflop: Hero is CO with [Tc], [Ts]. UTG calls, 4 folds, UTG calls.Flop: (5.50 SB) [4c], [7c], [5s] (2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG calls.Turn: (3.75 BB) [Jc] (2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG calls.River: (5.75 BB) [Kc] (2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets, ...is this a junky flush enough to call?[/u]

[looshle 6]

How many hands on villian?

[Wingmaster05 0]

sorry, 60 hands.

[AlphaOmega 0]

You are getting ~7:1, but if you look outside the odds, I think you have good justification for calling here.For one, his stats look somewhat retarded, so it is quite possible that he could do this with a hand you beat (though it is over a small sample, but this could also prove my point). Also, and more importantly, calling the river is good from a metagame standpoint. At 2/4, some players will pick up on lines you use in certain situaitons, so IMO it's best to show to the more observant players that you aren't bet/folding the river with a great enough frequency to warrant them to try a bluff raise on the river.Information could be a factor as well.

[No_Neck 0]

I think you are beat more than 7-1 I have a hard time not seeing it for one more bet. But the villian is passive, river raises aren't jokes, I dont' think calling is EV + though.

[Sysvr4 0]

Fold.

[Wingmaster05 0]

You are getting ~7:1, but if you look outside the odds, I think you have good justification for calling here.For one, his stats look somewhat retarded, so it is quite possible that he could do this with a hand you beat (though it is over a small sample, but this could also prove my point). Also, and more importantly, calling the river is good from a metagame standpoint. At 2/4, some players will pick up on lines you use in certain situaitons, so IMO it's best to show to the more observant players that you aren't bet/folding the river with a great enough frequency to warrant them to try a bluff raise on the river.Information could be a factor as well.

I agree with everything you said here, especially the table image factor. On my worst table i was getting check/raised constantly, and im pretty sure it was because i folded to the first couple of c/r's early in the session and some people noticed it.

[princeof56k 0]

I dont like the bet/fold line on the river. Too many villians will raise 4 to a flush boards with air (especially if you have been the aggressor the whole hand and its heads up).If you plan on folding to a raise, I would just check behind. Otherwise, just bet/call.