playing qq

[ForKeeps 0]

Not going to post a particular hand b/c it happens all the time to several of us...You have no read on the players involved in the hand, and no more than 2 raises occurred preflop.Say you see a flop with QQ after calling a reraise to your original raise, for a total of about 1/5 of your stack. Flop comes rainbow under 10 with no pairs. You are bet into what is worth just under 1/2 your stack. With NO read, can you get away from this hand, assuming you have the proper bankroll to be playing with at this level? I ask because we can get into this situation playing strongly or playing like a donk preflop, but the situation is the same postflop. You're invested into the pot and the flop comes no overs, connectors or pairs. An AA/KK has you, an AK or JJ is trying desperately to get you out of the pot, and we'll disregard the chance of a set because we get bet into so heavily on a board that wouldn't scare someone with a set. What do you individually (I'm not asking this to have a general rule be established), day in/day out, do here? I'm interested to see if what I do consistently is also what the majority of other good players do.Translation: donks = do not disturb.

[KowboyKoop 0]

Not going to post a particular hand b/c it happens all the time to several of us...You have no read on the players involved in the hand, and no more than 2 raises occurred preflop.Say you see a flop with QQ after calling a reraise to your original raise, for a total of about 1/5 of your stack. Flop comes rainbow under 10 with no pairs. You are bet into what is worth just under 1/2 your stack. With NO read, can you get away from this hand, assuming you have the proper bankroll to be playing with at this level? I ask because we can get into this situation playing strongly or playing like a donk preflop, but the situation is the same postflop. You're invested into the pot and the flop comes no overs, connectors or pairs. An AA/KK has you, an AK or JJ is trying desperately to get you out of the pot, and we'll disregard the chance of a set because we get bet into so heavily on a board that wouldn't scare someone with a set. What do you individually (I'm not asking this to have a general rule be established), day in/day out, do here? I'm interested to see if what I do consistently is also what the majority of other good players do.Translation: donks = do not disturb.

It's probably all about reads...I think you have to determine after he reraises you preflop whether he will only do that with AA or KK or whether he can do that with a lot of hands. Basically....just depends on the player. If it was against a player who I had no read against..I might push, because I see a lot of players putting in reraises with AK (suited or unsuited), AQ (suited), TT, JJ, KK and AA....and maybe even middle pairs such as 77-99 if they are a little tricky...so I might just have to push and hope to see JJ if he calls or just take down the pot against AQ or AK.

[ForKeeps 0]

Not going to post a particular hand b/c it happens all the time to several of us...You have no read on the players involved in the hand, and no more than 2 raises occurred preflop.Say you see a flop with QQ after calling a reraise to your original raise, for a total of about 1/5 of your stack. Flop comes rainbow under 10 with no pairs. You are bet into what is worth just under 1/2 your stack. With NO read, can you get away from this hand, assuming you have the proper bankroll to be playing with at this level? I ask because we can get into this situation playing strongly or playing like a donk preflop, but the situation is the same postflop. You're invested into the pot and the flop comes no overs, connectors or pairs. An AA/KK has you, an AK or JJ is trying desperately to get you out of the pot, and we'll disregard the chance of a set because we get bet into so heavily on a board that wouldn't scare someone with a set. What do you individually (I'm not asking this to have a general rule be established), day in/day out, do here? I'm interested to see if what I do consistently is also what the majority of other good players do.Translation: donks = do not disturb.

It's probably all about reads...I think you have to determine after he reraises you preflop whether he will only do that with AA or KK or whether he can do that with a lot of hands. Basically....just depends on the player. If it was against a player who I had no read against..I might push, because I see a lot of players putting in reraises with AK (suited or unsuited), AQ (suited), TT, JJ, KK and AA....and maybe even middle pairs such as 77-99 if they are a little tricky...so I might just have to push and hope to see JJ if he calls or just take down the pot against AQ or AK.

Wow.Seeing Kowboy responding, I had my flame-retardant suit on before I viewed.Not only was he offering a pertinent opinion, I AGREE WITH HIM.Thanks Kowboy, and keep it up.

[KowboyKoop 0]

Not going to post a particular hand b/c it happens all the time to several of us...You have no read on the players involved in the hand, and no more than 2 raises occurred preflop.Say you see a flop with QQ after calling a reraise to your original raise, for a total of about 1/5 of your stack. Flop comes rainbow under 10 with no pairs. You are bet into what is worth just under 1/2 your stack. With NO read, can you get away from this hand, assuming you have the proper bankroll to be playing with at this level? I ask because we can get into this situation playing strongly or playing like a donk preflop, but the situation is the same postflop. You're invested into the pot and the flop comes no overs, connectors or pairs. An AA/KK has you, an AK or JJ is trying desperately to get you out of the pot, and we'll disregard the chance of a set because we get bet into so heavily on a board that wouldn't scare someone with a set. What do you individually (I'm not asking this to have a general rule be established), day in/day out, do here? I'm interested to see if what I do consistently is also what the majority of other good players do.Translation: donks = do not disturb.

It's probably all about reads...I think you have to determine after he reraises you preflop whether he will only do that with AA or KK or whether he can do that with a lot of hands. Basically....just depends on the player. If it was against a player who I had no read against..I might push, because I see a lot of players putting in reraises with AK (suited or unsuited), AQ (suited), TT, JJ, KK and AA....and maybe even middle pairs such as 77-99 if they are a little tricky...so I might just have to push and hope to see JJ if he calls or just take down the pot against AQ or AK.

Wow.Seeing Kowboy responding, I had my flame-retardant suit on before I viewed.Not only was he offering a pertinent opinion, I AGREE WITH HIM.Thanks Kowboy, and keep it up.

I do it a lot more than people think. I only flame when necessary.

[AceyDeucy 0]

The fast way: Just stick it in. There are two hands that beat you, and they are harder to have than AK (or AQ, for that matter). If you have to pay for the knowledge, that's fine. Just re-buy and move on a wiser man if you are beat. In a cash game, your pockets should be deep enough to take a little cold deck here and there, anyway.The slow way: Be Daniel. Start yapping. Talk your way through your decision. More than likely, you will get SOMETHING to go on, to give yourself a read on the situation. You would be surprised how often you can beat a read out of the person from talking enough. ESPECIALLY if they talk back with you.Personally, I don't normally invest too much in trying ot make a perfect read on a total stranger, beause it is rare that we are both so deep-stacked that I am unwilling to take the hit. Obviously, it all depends on your willingness to lose.

[HurricaneKyle 0]

It all depends on reads. Against a really tight player you might consider folding.Against a loose player, move it in and if you are beat then hey thats poker, Coolers happen. However I don't like throwing strong overpairs away frequently, so most of the time(Especially in live play more than online)call and live with the results.

[canateian 0]

Unless you have a very solid read on you're opponent as a tight player, I really can't see getting away from queens on a board like this. In my opinion You are ahead far too often to throw away an overpair here.