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[Emptyeye]

Wow, that sounds utterly kinky.So I managed to make many big bets in a short period of time today, which is cool by me. I won't bore you with the complete hand history, but here are some of the more interesting plays (IMO) for your analysis..this also gives me a chance to review:For readability, the hands themselves are in bold, my plays are in italicized bold, and commentary is in normal text.PokerStars Game #1264256500: Hold'em Limit ($0.02/$0.04) - 2005/02/24 - 17:26:57 (ET)Table 'Capricorn' Seat #8 is the buttonSeat 1: River Boater ($0.52 in chips) Seat 2: spajder ($1.81 in chips) Seat 3: CountryGrl58 ($0.38 in chips) Seat 4: Myranim ($1.09 in chips) Seat 5: dobletres ($0.80 in chips) Seat 7: trackerh ($0.60 in chips) Seat 8: gjrv ($0.60 in chips) Seat 10: Superfly1 ($6.51 in chips) Superfly1: posts small blind $0.01River Boater: posts big blind $0.02*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Myranim [Ah 7h]spajder: calls $0.02CountryGrl58: folds Myranim: calls $0.02dobletres said, "nh"Myranim said, "ty"dobletres: calls $0.02trackerh: folds gjrv: folds Superfly1: calls $0.01River Boater: checks I <3 Axs. Probably a leak in my game in the long run, but eh.*** FLOP *** [Kc 7s 2s]Superfly1: checks River Boater: checks spajder: checks Myranim: checks dobletres: checks Not really a lot happening for me here; I pick up middle pair, but my flush draw busts, and I intend to drop this if someone bets. Luckily, it's checked around, and out comes...*** TURN *** [Kc 7s 2s] [7c]Superfly1: checks River Boater: checks spajder: bets $0.04Myranim: raises $0.04 to $0.08dobletres: folds Superfly1: folds River Boater: folds spajder: calls $0.04Obvious raise here. The checking around the flop tells me my set is good here.*** RIVER *** [Kc 7s 2s 7c] [Kh]spajder: bets $0.04Myranim: raises $0.04 to $0.08spajder: calls $0.04And again. Once again, the fact that no one bet on the flop tells me he doesn't have anything that would beat me, although I'm truthfully not sure I was conscious of that fact during the hand.*** SHOW DOWN ***Myranim: shows [Ah 7h] (a full house, Sevens full of Kings)spajder: mucks hand Myranim collected $0.42 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $0.42 | Rake $0 Board [Kc 7s 2s 7c Kh]Seat 1: River Boater (big blind) folded on the TurnSeat 2: spajder mucked [Qc As]Seat 3: CountryGrl58 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: Myranim showed [Ah 7h] and won ($0.42) with a full house, Sevens full of KingsSeat 5: dobletres folded on the TurnSeat 7: trackerh folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 8: gjrv (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 10: Superfly1 (small blind) folded on the TurnLudicrously overplayed AQ. Cool. I'm not quite sure what he was betting on, but my turn and especially my river raises should have clued him in that he was beat..incidentally, if he bets on the flop, I'm tight enough that I probably drop my middle pair.PokerStars Game #1264250114: Hold'em Limit ($0.02/$0.04) - 2005/02/24 - 17:25:35 (ET)Table 'Capricorn' Seat #7 is the buttonSeat 1: River Boater ($0.54 in chips) Seat 2: spajder ($1.83 in chips) Seat 3: CountryGrl58 ($0.40 in chips) Seat 4: Myranim ($0.54 in chips) Seat 5: dobletres ($0.96 in chips) Seat 7: trackerh ($0.80 in chips) Seat 8: gjrv ($0.61 in chips) Seat 10: Superfly1 ($6.63 in chips) gjrv: posts small blind $0.01Superfly1: posts big blind $0.02CountryGrl58: posts big blind $0.02*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Myranim [As Ad]River Boater: calls $0.02spajder: calls $0.02CountryGrl58: checks Myranim: raises $0.02 to $0.04dobletres: raises $0.02 to $0.06trackerh: calls $0.06gjrv: folds Superfly1: calls $0.04River Boater: folds spajder: folds CountryGrl58: folds Myranim: raises $0.02 to $0.08Betting is cappeddobletres: calls $0.02trackerh: calls $0.02Superfly1: calls $0.02Four to the flop, capped, with rockets? Yes please.*** FLOP *** [6h Qh 5d]Superfly1: bets $0.02Myranim: raises $0.02 to $0.04dobletres: calls $0.04trackerh: calls $0.04Superfly1: calls $0.02This looks harmless enough...the bet out confuses me, but calling as opposed to reraising tells me he likely hit top pair, not a set.*** TURN *** [6h Qh 5d] [Ks]Superfly1: checks Myranim: bets $0.04dobletres: calls $0.04trackerh: calls $0.04Superfly1: folds Again, I think I'm still good here...incidentally, the person who led out on the flop check-folds the turn. Again, I don't even think I was conscious of this at the time, but in hindsight, I'm pretty sure he had a queen.*** RIVER *** [6h Qh 5d Ks] [Jc]Myranim: bets $0.04dobletres: folds trackerh: calls $0.04The possibility of a runner-runner straight scares me (I've seen stranger things), but barring that, I believe my aces hold up.*** SHOW DOWN ***Myranim: shows [As Ad] (a pair of Aces)trackerh: mucks hand Myranim collected $0.75 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $0.75 | Rake $0 Board [6h Qh 5d Ks Jc]Seat 1: River Boater folded before FlopSeat 2: spajder folded before FlopSeat 3: CountryGrl58 folded before FlopSeat 4: Myranim showed [As Ad] and won ($0.75) with a pair of AcesSeat 5: dobletres folded on the RiverSeat 7: trackerh (button) mucked [3s 3d]Seat 8: gjrv (small blind) folded before FlopSeat 10: Superfly1 (big blind) folded on the TurnI note a general tendency at these limits is that people get married to their pocket pairs, and refuse to drop them, ever. Note that while his pre-flop play is wildly loose for 3s, it does give him the odds to chase his set to the turn and possibly the river as well, and I'm a world of hurt if he hits the set.PokerStars Game #1264246446: Hold'em Limit ($0.02/$0.04) - 2005/02/24 - 17:24:48 (ET)Table 'Octans' Seat #2 is the buttonSeat 2: FritzKC ($3.77 in chips) Seat 3: fchristal ($2.42 in chips) Seat 4: BogleA ($0.40 in chips) Seat 5: badbillydean ($4.39 in chips) Seat 6: fesser ($0.44 in chips) Seat 7: Myranim ($1.02 in chips) Seat 9: FiSHeYe1984 ($1.42 in chips) Seat 10: chinon ($1.48 in chips) fchristal: posts small blind $0.01BogleA: posts big blind $0.02*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Myranim [Ac Kh]badbillydean: calls $0.02fesser: folds Myranim: raises $0.02 to $0.04FiSHeYe1984: folds chinon: calls $0.04FritzKC: folds fchristal: folds BogleA: folds badbillydean: calls $0.02Raise with Big Slick.*** FLOP *** [9d Th 6c]badbillydean: checks Myranim: bets $0.02chinon: calls $0.02badbillydean: folds Betting my overcards, perhaps a bit overaggressively.*** TURN *** [9d Th 6c] [Qd]Myranim: bets $0.04chinon: calls $0.04Again I bet out. There's an argument to be made here for SLOWING THE **** DOWN, and it's probably the winning one. As it is, though, I think my overcards are good if they hit, and I've picked up a gutshot straight draw as well.*** RIVER *** [9d Th 6c Qd] [5h]Myranim: bets $0.04chinon: folds Myranim collected $0.27 from potMyranim: doesn't show handDespite missing everything, I bet out one more time here, figuring (And perhaps overestimating my opponent) that if I check it'll scream "HELLO I'VE MISSED ALL MY DRAWS PLEASE BET AND MAKE ME FOLD". Miraculously, he goes away. Note that this is one of those plays that almost never works in a micro-limit game, and I'm extremely lucky to pull it off here.PokerStars Game #1264243904: Hold'em Limit ($0.02/$0.04) - 2005/02/24 - 17:24:15 (ET)Table 'Capricorn' Seat #4 is the buttonSeat 1: River Boater ($0.64 in chips) Seat 2: spajder ($1.55 in chips) Seat 4: Myranim ($0.58 in chips) Seat 5: dobletres ($0.99 in chips) Seat 7: trackerh ($0.85 in chips) Seat 8: gjrv ($0.63 in chips) Seat 10: Superfly1 ($6.67 in chips) dobletres: posts small blind $0.01trackerh: posts big blind $0.02*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Myranim [5d 6d]gjrv: folds Superfly1: calls $0.02River Boater: calls $0.02spajder: calls $0.02Myranim: raises $0.02 to $0.04dobletres: calls $0.03trackerh: calls $0.02Superfly1: calls $0.02River Boater: calls $0.02spajder: calls $0.02This is just an incredibly stupid play on my part, and I knew it when I made it. Looking back, I believe what I was thinking was, "Well, let's mix this up a little. And if I'm going to play stupid, I may as well play balls-to-the-wall stupid...anyone who limped will call again, and if I get a draw, I'll thus have the pot odds to chase it." Yeah, I definitely outthought myself here.*** FLOP *** [Jd 2c Jh]dobletres: checks trackerh: checks Superfly1: checks CountryGrl58 joins the table at seat #3 River Boater: checks spajder: bets $0.02Myranim: folds I do, however, know better than to chase the runner-runner flush--and that's my good draw.So, thoughts? Or is my analysis (If not my play) generally correct?

[KDawgCometh]

things look fine, you knew you did wrong on raising with the low suited conectors so there's no need to bring that play up(even though I just did). I don't mind what you did with the AK hand, I would've done rthe same thing.

[Jtmaroon84]

Maybe next time you could post more hands so that we could see some of the lowlights as well as the highlights. I think you know you overbet those overcards when you had the slick and raising with low suited connectors is definately not a way to win any limit game. Your own self-analysis seems to be pretty good here, this way of looking back at hands played is a good way to make your game better.Good luck in the future and keep up the grind.

[Emptyeye]

Yeah, there are definitely some highlights and lowlights in there..my personal favorite is when someone apparently thought they were Phil Hellmuth and checked their set of aces on the flop AND turn (Being last to act, no less!)...hey, thanks for letting me hit my runner-runner straight on the river. ;)what I may do is take my hand history from later on in the day, as well as what I do tomorrow, and pick some more that stood out in my mind as I played them.Oh, random question...sometimes the hand histories sent to mye-mail account from PokerStars are nice and readable, and other times they're an un-linebroken mess. Any way to predict/somehow stop this behavior? Having a 120K glob of text severely reduces my desire to pick out hands and post them here. >_<Thanks everyone.

[Absolute]

This is just an incredibly stupid play on my part, and I knew it when I made it. Looking back, I believe what I was thinking was, "Well, let's mix this up a little. And if I'm going to play stupid, I may as well play balls-to-the-wall stupid...anyone who limped will call again, and if I get a draw, I'll thus have the pot odds to chase it." Yeah, I definitely outthought myself here. Maybe you could come sit at a table with me. I'm only up 10BB after a couple hundred hands, I need some winners.

[Emptyeye]

Absolute: Well, i can help you out until the flop, at which point I usually regain my sense. ;)Nine more hands for you..these aren't in any particular order other than all were played last night...same readability scheme as before.PokerStars Game #1265840441: Hold'em Limit ($0.02/$0.04) - 2005/02/24 - 22:33:06 (ET) Table 'Kajaani'Seat #6 is the button Seat 1: Cirino ($0.19 in chips) Seat 2: Blue57 ($1.69 in chips) Seat 3: MaxDillon ($0.79 in chips) Seat 4: TX Grandma ($1.83 in chips) Seat 5: caroline3 ($0.29 in chips) Seat 6: Grendaldfc ($0.82 in chips) Seat 7: Myranim ($0.74 in chips) Seat 8: Shnuggles ($0.94 in chips) Seat 10: buffy11 ($1.97 in chips) Myranim: posts small blind $0.01 Shnuggles: posts big blind $0.02 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Myranim [Jd Kd]buffy11: folds Cirino: calls $0.02 Blue57: folds MaxDillon: calls $0.02 TX Grandma: calls $0.02 caroline3: calls $0.02 Grendaldfc: calls $0.02 Myranim: calls $0.01 Shnuggles: checks I'll complete with that in the small blind. Other than that, I'm generally tight enough (Really!) that I might fold it before the flop.*** FLOP *** [6d 3d 8s] Myranim: bets $0.02Shnuggles: folds Cirino: calls $0.02 MaxDillon: calls $0.02 TX Grandma: calls $0.02 caroline3: folds Grendaldfc: folds There's actually a chance my overcards are good here if I hit one, but I'm betting the flush draw more than anything.*** TURN *** [6d 3d 8s] [Td] Myranim: bets $0.04 Cirino: calls $0.04 MaxDillon: calls $0.04 TX Grandma: calls $0.04Bingo. Three calls as opposed to a raise tell me the King-high flush is good. *** RIVER *** [6d 3d 8s Td] [Jh] Myranim: bets $0.04 Cirino: calls $0.04 MaxDillon: folds TX Grandma: calls $0.04 And again. If a fourth, non-A diamond (Because the Ad on the board means I have the nuts with my K) drops on the river, I might be concerned (I've been known to hold onto the naked A of a 3-of-a-suit board in hopes that number four will hit the turn and/or river), but by now I would pay it off anyway. As it is, though, I'm confident my hand is best.*** SHOW DOWN *** Myranim: shows [Jd Kd] (a flush, King high) Cirino: mucks hand TX Grandma: mucks hand Myranim collected $0.50 from pot What do you know, I'm right.*** SUMMARY *** Total pot $0.50 | Rake $0 Board [6d 3d 8s Td Jh] Seat 1: Cirino mucked [7c Kh] Seat 2: Blue57 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 3: MaxDillon folded on the River Seat 4: TX Grandma mucked [Ts 7s] Seat 5: caroline3 folded on the Flop Seat 6: Grendaldfc (button) folded on the Flop Seat 7: Myranim (small blind) showed [Jd Kd] and won ($0.50) with a flush, King high Seat 8: Shnuggles (big blind) folded on the Flop Seat 10: buffy11 folded before Flop (didn't bet)I was against King high and a pair of sevens. Boo, I was hoping someone might've hit their straight on the river. Oh well. Additionally, at least against the people who showed down, I would, in fact, have been good had one of my overcards hit before/as opposed to the third diamond.PokerStars Game #1265835657: Hold'em Limit ($0.02/$0.04) - 2005/02/24 - 22:32:11 (ET) Table 'Schilt' Seat #8 is the button Seat 1: vinidog ($0.50 in chips) Seat 2: SAILOR_M00N ($1.25 in chips) Seat 4: MYNT ($0.72 in chips) Seat 6: stainley ($0.73 in chips) Seat 7: VFox ($0.30 in chips) Seat 8: STUDMAN411 ($0.92 in chips) Seat 9: agb22766 ($1.79 in chips) Seat 10: Myranim ($0.88 in chips) agb22766: posts small blind $0.01 Myranim: posts big blind $0.02 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Myranim [7d 4d] vinidog: folds SAILOR_M00N: folds MYNT: folds stainley: calls $0.02 VFox: calls $0.02 STUDMAN411: folds agb22766: calls $0.01 ndirish76 joins the table at seat #3 Myranim: checksPretty abyssmal hand, but I'm effectively getting a free flop with it. Sure. *** FLOP *** [5c 4c 6h] agb22766: bets $0.02 Myranim: calls $0.02 stainley: calls $0.02 VFox: calls $0.02In hindsight, I'm not even getting the odds to chase the OESD, particularly with the two suited cards out there. I do it anyway, though, but I'm not sure why now. *** TURN *** [5c 4c 6h] [3c] agb22766: bets $0.04 Myranim: raises $0.04 to $0.08 stainley: calls $0.08 VFox: folds agb22766: calls $0.04 Trouble. I've hit my straight, but there's a potential flush on board. agb bets out again, and for some reason, I decide now is a good time to subscribe to Hellmuth's "Raise to see where you're at" theory (This isn't as crazy as it sounds, as I was expecting to raise, agb would reraise because he had a flush, and I'd fold at that point)..and get...two callers? Wha?*** RIVER *** [5c 4c 6h 3c] [Kd] agb22766: checks Myranim: bets $0.04 stainley: folds agb22766: folds Myranim collected $0.40 from pot Myranim: doesn't show hand agb finally slows down, and I bet out to see what happens. After all that, everyone folds, and I don't argue.*** SUMMARY *** Total pot $0.40 | Rake $0 Board [5c 4c 6h 3c Kd] Seat 1: vinidog folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 2: SAILOR_M00N folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: MYNT folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: stainley folded on the River Seat 7: VFox folded on the Turn Seat 8: STUDMAN411 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 9: agb22766 (small blind) folded on the River Seat 10: Myranim (big blind) collected ($0.40)I'm actually really curious as to what agb in particular had (Though less so now, as I thought for some reason the board had paired on the river..obviously incorrect as I look back on it now).Here's a lowlight for you, which I didn't even remember until I read the hand history:PokerStars Game #1265835424: Hold'em Limit ($0.02/$0.04) - 2005/02/24 - 22:32:09 (ET) Table 'Kajaani' Seat #5 is the button Seat 1: Cirino ($0.19 in chips) Seat 2: Blue57 ($1.69 in chips) Seat 3: MaxDillon ($0.79 in chips) Seat 4: TX Grandma ($1.83 in chips) Seat 5: caroline3 ($0.37 in chips) Seat 6: Grendaldfc ($0.98 in chips) Seat 7: Myranim ($0.80 in chips) Seat 8: Shnuggles ($0.64 in chips) Seat 10: buffy11 ($1.97 in chips) Grendaldfc: posts small blind $0.01 Myranim: posts big blind $0.02 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Myranim [2d 2c] TX Grandma said, "nh" Shnuggles: calls $0.02 buffy11 said, "tyvm" buffy11: folds Cirino: folds Blue57: folds MaxDillon: folds TX Grandma: folds caroline3: calls $0.02 Grendaldfc: raises $0.02 to $0.04 [iMyranim: calls $0.02[/i] Shnuggles: raises $0.02 to $0.06 caroline3: calls $0.04 Grendaldfc: calls $0.02 Myranim: calls $0.02Not exactly sure what I was thinking here...I like small pocket pairs as much as the next person, which may be why I felt like defending my blind with the deuces, and then I sort of priced myself in when Shnuggles reraised.*** FLOP *** [Kc Qs Js] Grendaldfc: bets $0.02 Myranim: foldsI do know better than to chase a set which is likely no longer good, though.If you're curious, the person who raised initially (Who also bet out on the flop) had pocket queens, and the reraiser (Shnuggles) had pocket tens. The tens hit their OESD on the river to beat the flopped set of queens. As I thought, the set of deuces (Which never materialized) wouldn't have been good even if I'd hit it.PokerStars Game #1265827840: Hold'em Limit ($0.02/$0.04) - 2005/02/24 - 22:30:44 (ET) Table 'Schilt' Seat #7 is the button Seat 1: vinidog ($0.50 in chips) Seat 2: SAILOR_M00N ($1.25 in chips) Seat 4: MYNT ($0.72 in chips) Seat 6: stainley ($0.77 in chips) Seat 7: VFox ($0.30 in chips) Seat 8: STUDMAN411 ($0.88 in chips) Seat 9: agb22766 ($1.83 in chips) Seat 10: Myranim ($0.84 in chips) STUDMAN411: posts small blind $0.01 agb22766: posts big blind $0.02 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Myranim [Qs Ac] Myranim: raises $0.02 to $0.04 vinidog: folds SAILOR_M00N: folds MYNT: folds stainley: calls $0.04 VFox: folds STUDMAN411: calls $0.03 agb22766: calls $0.02Raise with AQ. *** FLOP *** [Ah 5c 7h] STUDMAN411: checks agb22766: checks Myranim: bets $0.02 stainley: folds STUDMAN411: calls $0.02 agb22766: folds I bet out TPGK...AK is a concern here, but I think I'm good otherwise.*** TURN *** [Ah 5c 7h] [2c] STUDMAN411: checks Myranim: bets $0.04 STUDMAN411: calls $0.04 Likewise here.*** RIVER *** [Ah 5c 7h 2c] [5s] STUDMAN411: checks Myranim: bets $0.04 STUDMAN411: raises $0.04 to $0.08 Myranim: calls $0.04The raise on the river confuses me, and I briefly fear that he hit a set on the river (And there's always AK), but I've gotta pay it off at this point. *** SHOW DOWN *** STUDMAN411: shows [Ad Qh] (two pair, Aces and Fives) Myranim: shows [Qs Ac] (two pair, Aces and Fives) STUDMAN411 collected $0.22 from pot Myranim collected $0.22 from potWell okay then. I'll take that. This next hand is my favorite of this particular session:PokerStars Game #1265796229: Hold'em Limit ($0.02/$0.04) - 2005/02/24 - 22:24:58 (ET) Table 'Mimosa' Seat #5 is the button Seat 3: glflvr ($1.17 in chips) Seat 5: SoxLover ($1.71 in chips) Seat 8: Myranim ($0.44 in chips) Seat 9: HOASTY ($1.01 in chips) Seat 10: creg420 ($0.55 in chips) Myranim: posts small blind $0.01 HOASTY: posts big blind $0.02 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Myranim [7d 8h] creg420: folds glflvr: calls $0.02 SoxLover: folds Myranim: calls $0.01 HOASTY: checks Loose call on my part, but I'm the small blind and it's shorthanded...in a full game, or if I'm not in the blinds, I fold this.*** FLOP *** [As Ts Ac] Myranim: checks HOASTY: checks glflvr: checks Yikes! Just about nothing happening for me here, and I intend to fold at the first sign of aggression.*** TURN *** [As Ts Ac] [6c] Myranim: checks HOASTY: checks glflvr: checks Well, I've picked up an inside straight draw, but that's not enough to convince me to stay in this hand if someone bets.*** RIVER *** [As Ts Ac 6c] [9d] Myranim: bets $0.04 HOASTY: folds glflvr: raises $0.04 to $0.08 Myranim: raises $0.04 to $0.12 glflvr: raises $0.04 to $0.16 Betting is capped Myranim: calls $0.04 Uh-ohs! I've hit my miracle straight. Not only that, but glflvr has suddenly woken up and is reraising like crazy. Truthfully, it never occurs to me that I could have been drawing dead the whole hand (To A10), or that he somehow hit a better hand than my straight...I like to think he would've bet it at some point before the river if that were true.*** SHOW DOWN *** glflvr: shows [Ad 4h] (three of a kind, Aces) Myranim: shows [7d 8h] (a straight, Six to Ten) Myranim collected $0.38 from potThere's a saying that it's better to win a small pot than lose a big one. Here, glflvr apparently decides he's Phil Hellmuth, and checks his monster on the flop AND turn...and in true Hellmuthian style, it bites him on the ass as he allows me to hit my runner-runner straight on the river. Just to reemphasize, all he has to do is bet on the flop OR turn and I (And likely HOASTY as well) go away. Instead, he tries to be Mr. Poker Pro, and instead of picking up a six cent pot, he gives me four big bets. Hooray! I can actually see him on the river now..."All right, someone's finally betting, I've got him where I want him, I'll raise him...awesome! He's reraising, now I'll just cap it, he'll call, I'll take his money and...WHAAAAAAT?!?!"Annnnyway...I play this next hand badly, but get away with it...shorthanded play is not my strong suit, and I usually try and leave a table one it gets down below six active players. PokerStars Game #1265791487: Hold'em Limit ($0.02/$0.04) - 2005/02/24 - 22:24:08 (ET) Table 'Mimosa' Seat #3 is the button Seat 3: glflvr ($1.19 in chips) Seat 5: SoxLover ($1.83 in chips) Seat 8: Myranim ($0.30 in chips) Seat 9: HOASTY ($1.01 in chips) Seat 10: creg420 ($0.55 in chips) SoxLover: posts small blind $0.01 Myranim: posts big blind $0.02 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Myranim [9h 5d] HOASTY: folds creg420: folds glflvr: calls $0.02 SoxLover: calls $0.01 Myranim: checks Free flops are good.*** FLOP *** [4h 7s 8d] SoxLover: bets $0.02 Myranim: calls $0.02 glflvr: folds I call here, because...um...gutshot straight draw? Like I said, shorthanded play really isn't my thing, and I probably should've left the table before this (Though this occurred BEFORE the runner-runner straight at the same table)*** TURN *** [4h 7s 8d] [5h] SoxLover: bets $0.04 Myranim: calls $0.04Well, I've hit a pair of fives, and if my six hits, I'll likely be taking some chips from him because he won't think I have a nine. I'll stress again that I'm not good shorthanded, so if you want to take my money from me quickly, play me at a 5-person or fewer table. *** RIVER *** [4h 7s 8d 5h] [5c] SoxLover: checks Myranim: bets $0.04 SoxLover: calls $0.04 I almost feel bad for hitting this set in spite of my stupid play. As it turned out, I had no need to worry once the turn came.*** SHOW DOWN *** Myranim: shows [9h 5d] (three of a kind, Fives) SoxLover: mucks hand Myranim collected $0.26 from pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot $0.26 | Rake $0 Board [4h 7s 8d 5h 5c] Seat 3: glflvr (button) folded on the Flop Seat 5: SoxLover (small blind) mucked [Ah 4s] Seat 8: Myranim (big blind) showed [9h 5d] and won ($0.26) with three of a kind, Fives Seat 9: HOASTY folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 10: creg420 folded before Flop (didn't bet)In other words, hitting the pair of fives on the turn put me AHEAD with one card to come. I'm not sure whether that makes me feel better about my fishlike play here.PokerStars Game #1265742142: Hold'em Limit ($0.02/$0.04) - 2005/02/24 - 22:15:25 (ET) Table 'Schilt' Seat #1 is the button Seat 1: vinidog ($0.70 in chips) Seat 2: SAILOR_M00N ($1.35 in chips) Seat 3: 44shootist ($1.36 in chips) Seat 5: MrsConcrete ($0.18 in chips) Seat 6: goodgoing ($0.80 in chips) Seat 7: TPash ($0.40 in chips) Seat 8: EB_5307 ($1.30 in chips) Seat 9: agb22766 ($0.94 in chips) Seat 10: Myranim ($0.67 in chips) SAILOR_M00N: posts small blind $0.01 44shootist: posts big blind $0.02 MYNT: sits out TPash: posts big blind $0.02 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Myranim [9c 9s] MrsConcrete: calls $0.02 goodgoing: calls $0.02 TPash: checks EB_5307: folds agb22766: calls $0.02 Myranim: raises $0.02 to $0.04 vinidog: calls $0.04 SAILOR_M00N: folds 44shootist: folds MrsConcrete: calls $0.02 goodgoing: calls $0.02 TPash: folds agb22766: calls $0.02 Raise with the nines in a late position.*** FLOP *** [4s 8d Kc] MrsConcrete: checks goodgoing: checks agb22766: checks Myranim: bets $0.02 vinidog: folds MrsConcrete: folds goodgoing: folds agb22766: folds Myranim collected $0.25 from pot Myranim: doesn't show handNo one else wants to show strength, so I do it despite the overcard..and everyone folds. Works for me. Hellmuth has done it!<Smash>All these calling stations, it's insane! How are you supposed to beat these limits?!</Smash>When to get away from big slick:************** PokerStars Game #1265718185: Hold'em Limit ($0.02/$0.04) - 2005/02/24 - 22:11:04 (ET) Table 'Schilt' Seat #8 is the button Seat 1: vinidog ($0.56 in chips) Seat 2: SAILOR_M00N ($1.45 in chips) Seat 3: 44shootist ($1.40 in chips) Seat 6: goodgoing ($0.56 in chips) Seat 7: cheezwizpunk ($0.02 in chips) Seat 8: EB_5307 ($1.60 in chips) Seat 9: agb22766 ($0.72 in chips) Seat 10: Myranim ($0.77 in chips) agb22766: posts small blind $0.01 Myranim: posts big blind $0.02 MYNT: sits out *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Myranim [Ac Kc] vinidog: calls $0.02 SAILOR_M00N: folds 44shootist: folds goodgoing: folds cheezwizpunk: calls $0.02 and is all-in EB_5307: calls $0.02 agb22766: calls $0.01 Myranim: raises $0.02 to $0.04 vinidog: calls $0.02 EB_5307: calls $0.02 agb22766: calls $0.02 Raise with Big Slick. Especially suited.*** FLOP *** [2s Qs 2c] agb22766: checks Myranim: bets $0.02 vinidog: calls $0.02 EB_5307: calls $0.02 agb22766: folds There's a case for checking and/or check/folding here, as this being micro-limit, there's a decent shot someone is holding a 2 and I'm drawing almost dead, not to mention the flush draw out there. Still, having raised preflop, I like to show strength on the flop if I'm in position to do so.*** TURN *** [2s Qs 2c] [8s] Myranim: checks vinidog: bets $0.04 EB_5307: calls $0.04 Myranim: folds The flush draw hits, and I decide I'm now drawing totally dead. Time to get out of this one. Here's how the rest played out, if you're curious.*** RIVER *** [2s Qs 2c 8s] [8d] vinidog: checks EB_5307: bets $0.04 vinidog: calls $0.04 *** SHOW DOWN *** EB_5307: shows [5c 5h] (two pair, Eights and Fives) vinidog: shows [Tc Qd] (two pair, Queens and Eights) vinidog collected $0.30 from side pot cheezwizpunk: mucks hand vinidog collected $0.10 from main pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot $0.40 Main pot $0.10. Side pot $0.30. | Rake $0 Board [2s Qs 2c 8s 8d] Seat 1: vinidog showed [Tc Qd] and won ($0.40) with two pair, Queens and Eights Seat 2: SAILOR_M00N folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 3: 44shootist folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: goodgoing folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: cheezwizpunk mucked [As 4d] Seat 8: EB_5307 (button) showed [5c 5h] and lost with two pair, Eights and Fives Seat 9: agb22766 (small blind) folded on the Flop Seat 10: Myranim (big blind) folded on the TurnAt least with the people who made it to showdown, I was actually more live than I thought. Still, it was the correct fold.Finally, here's a hand that shows why playing any two facecards is not necessarily a good idea:PokerStars Game #1265710296: Hold'em Limit ($0.02/$0.04) - 2005/02/24 - 22:09:36 (ET) Table 'Mimosa' Seat #5 is the button Seat 1: BusterBone ($0.39 in chips) Seat 2: DIRTYD33 ($0.36 in chips) Seat 3: glflvr ($0.62 in chips) Seat 4: lovdawings ($2.05 in chips) Seat 5: SoxLover ($1.98 in chips) Seat 6: SINYB ($1.47 in chips) Seat 8: Myranim ($0.74 in chips) Seat 10: creg420 ($0.69 in chips) SINYB: posts small blind $0.01 Myranim: posts big blind $0.02 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Myranim [Jc Qh] creg420: folds BusterBone: folds DIRTYD33: raises $0.02 to $0.04 glflvr: calls $0.04 lovdawings: folds Fat Boy Rich has returned SoxLover: folds SINYB: calls $0.03 Myranim: calls $0.02In hindsight, I should probably have folded to the raise, but I felt like defending my blind. *** FLOP *** [Qs 5h 8h] SINYB: checks Myranim: bets $0.02 DIRTYD33: calls $0.02 glflvr: folds SINYB: calls $0.02 I bet the top pair. I hesitate to even call it TPGK, because KQ and AQ wreck my day. The call from DIRTYD in particular (Who raised preflop) worries me.*** TURN *** [Qs 5h 8h] [Tc] SINYB: checks Myranim: bets $0.04 DIRTYD33: calls $0.04 SINYB: foldsI've picked up a gutshot straight draw, though I'm not sure if this is why I bet it again (Particularly with two hearts out there). *** RIVER *** [Qs 5h 8h Tc] [8c] Myranim: bets $0.04 DIRTYD33: raises $0.04 to $0.08 Myranim: calls $0.04At this point, I'm almost sure I'm being outkicked (Which raises the question of why I bet in the first place...a check/call would likely have told me the same thing and saved me a bet besides), and the raise on the river confirms it. Still, I've come this far, so I've gotta pay it off in case this is that one time in many I'll be wrong about such a thing.*** SHOW DOWN *** DIRTYD33: shows [Ks Qc] (two pair, Queens and Eights) Myranim: mucks handSure enough.Thoughts? Or again, is my hindsight analysis generally correct?

[JFarrell20]

AK hand: Check/call the turn. Check the river. 50/50 whether to call or fold. I'd probably fold the river, I don't remember how big the pot was. If the pot was big, call.56s hand: Fold preflop. multiple callers already but you are in early position. Definitely don't raise. Just throw this away. Late position this call can be OK. Not here. Everything else looked fine .