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[lokibeat]

Hand #4587426-120 at SnG-0003o (No Limit Hold'em Sit and Go)Powered by UltimateBetStarted at 24/Feb/05 04:27:15 lokibeat is at seat 4 with 6250. Hazard8000 is at seat 9 with 3750. The button is at seat 4. lokibeat posts the small blind of 200. Hazard8000 posts the big blind of 400. lokibeat: 2c 3h Hazard8000: -- --Pre-flop: lokibeat calls. Hazard8000 checks. Flop (board: 5d 3d 2d): Hazard8000 bets 400. lokibeat raises to 2000. Hazard8000 calls. Turn (board: 5d 3d 2d 4d): Hazard8000 checks. lokibeat checks. River (board: 5d 3d 2d 4d 3s): Hazard8000 bets 400. lokibeat goes all-in for 3850. Hazard8000 goes all-in for 1350. lokibeat is returned 2500 (uncalled). Tournament all-in showdown -- players show: lokibeat shows 2c 3h. Hazard8000 shows 8h 6d. Showdown: lokibeat has 2c 3h 3d 2d 3s: full house, threes full of deuces. Hazard8000 has 6d 5d 3d 2d 4d: straight flush, six high. Hand #4587426-120 Summary:Is it just me, or was this a balzy call on the flop? His, not mine obviously.Good thing I wasn't the small stack, because this would have ended my tournament. I lost anyway, but this one was a tough one.Would anybody out there have played it differently?It was a very low stakes sng.

[Vade]

Well, I probably would have surrendered my SB with 2-3 which happens to be the single worst hand against 1 single opponent.However, once you saw the flop, yeah, then it's a bad beat.

[lokibeat]

Yeah, it was a loose call pre-flop, but if the flop is low cards there's no chance he puts me on anything. As is what happened. If he raises pre-flop I fold unless it's the minimum. It's a pretty standard play for me heads up. Is that wrong?I have a question. Has anyone ever put an opponent on a straight flush and folded?That's advanced play in my book.

[Vade]

I personally think that it is an automatic fold, but whatever.If there are 4 to the flush on the board, it's possible to put someone on a straight flush, but if I have the A I'm paying it off anyway.

[jayistheman]

was a terrible call on the flop by him... but your bet really did reek of bluff although he couldnt beat a bluff :?

[KDawgCometh]

no, it wasn't. You were behind on every street. On the flop you had 2 pair he had a flush, turn he had the straight flush, and the river you improved to second best hand. If he has an A your still beaten by a straight flush. not a bad beat in the slightest, you would need to be way ahead for it to qualify as a bad beat and you were behind the whole way

[lokibeat]

He was four to the flush and had the gutshot straight flush. He was not ahead on the flop. With two cards to come he had 13 outs as well as lots of runner-runner opptys since i was bottom two pair. I was 54% favorite there, but he called 2000 to win 3200. That was hardly worthwhile unless of course you put some implied odds in there which if he hits his flush (or straight) he doubles up.I'm thinking it's technically a bad beat, but not as bad some runner runner two outers of course. My only recourse here would have been to put him all in on the flop, to try to take it there (reverse implied odds if you like), otherwise he could pretty much call any raise I make.Doncha just love poker?