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#1 Mattnxtc

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Posted 09 February 2006 - 06:03 PM

.1/.25 bodog pl

matt in mp1: 2 icon_suit_club.gif 7 :spkade: icon_suit_heart.gif a icon_suit_spade.gif

Preflop: utg raises to .5, utg+1 folds, matt calls, mp2 calls, mp3 folds, button calls, sb raises to 3.15, bb calls, utg calls, matt calls, mp2 calls, button folds

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#2 Chamonyx

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Posted 10 February 2006 - 05:33 AM

Assuming you have 2c 7s Kh As.......

Calling the raise is OK (as would be folding). You should be disappointed to see the 2 other callers behind you, but that is the problem with being in middle position ....

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Posted 10 February 2006 - 06:17 AM

Calling ok here. Suited Ace/duece with big are good hands to see flops with.




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#4 Mattnxtc

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Posted 10 February 2006 - 06:19 AM

QUOTE (Chamonyx)
Assuming you have 2c 7s Kh As.......

Calling the raise is OK (as would be folding). You should be disappointed to see the 2 other callers behind you, but that is the problem with being in middle position ....


sorry bout that yeah..that was my hand...not sure what happened when i was typin it out. so from MP this is not so good a hand? i really thought about dumpin it to the sb big raise...would that have been the correct play?

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Posted 10 February 2006 - 07:07 AM

Oops, I didnt notice that the sb had potted it pf.

Calling then becomes marginal. However, since the bb and UTG called the raise, I would lean towards calling as well.




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Posted 10 February 2006 - 11:48 AM

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i really thought about dumpin it to the sb big raise...would that have been the correct play?


It depends on how comfortable you are post-flop and what your view of the table is. In terms of hand quality, how many 2 card combinations can come on the flop that make you comfortable calling (or raising with 2 behind) a pot-sized continuation bet from the SB? 2 out of 345678s, obviously; K7 - preferably with another low card and no suits. And that's about it. To face significant potential action, you really want all 4 cards working together. Change the 7 to 3,4,5 or even a 6 and you feel a lot more comfortable. That's why it is a marginal call in MP - you have to hit to play. In late position it is a no brainer.

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Posted 11 February 2006 - 09:56 PM

QUOTE (Chamonyx)
QUOTE (Mattnxtc)
i really thought about dumpin it to the sb big raise...would that have been the correct play?


It depends on how comfortable you are post-flop and what your view of the table is. In terms of hand quality, how many 2 card combinations can come on the flop that make you comfortable calling (or raising with 2 behind) a pot-sized continuation bet from the SB? 2 out of 345678s, obviously; K7 - preferably with another low card and no suits. And that's about it. To face significant potential action, you really want all 4 cards working together. Change the 7 to 3,4,5 or even a 6 and you feel a lot more comfortable. That's why it is a marginal call in MP - you have to hit to play. In late position it is a no brainer.


exactly.

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Posted 16 February 2006 - 10:16 AM

If that King is a king of clubs, you might even consider re-raising to try and thin the field, but with that hand i am calling unless there are alot of callers and i can be sure that one of them is also holding A2
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#9 KVOM

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Posted 17 February 2006 - 08:28 AM

Without knowing the stack sizes it's pretty hard to give a definitie answer. I would almost always call with this hand.




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