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Posted 07 February 2006 - 08:09 PM

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Preflop: Hero is SB with A:spade:, J:spade:.
UTG raises.

Flop: (7 SB) 7:heart:, A:heart:, 5:club: (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, CO folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (7 BB) 9:diamond: (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 8 BB

Any thoughts?

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Posted 07 February 2006 - 08:17 PM

I fold in that situation if I dont have a read on them or if they are a tight player.
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Posted 07 February 2006 - 08:33 PM

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I fold in that situation if I dont have a read on them


I was actually thinking the opposite of this. I usually call down here unless I have a very good read. I know I'm probably wrong, but I'm calling down often. I just hate folding TP.

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Posted 07 February 2006 - 08:35 PM

i want to show this down

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Posted 07 February 2006 - 08:46 PM

He is often doing this with another AJ.
He's often doing this with a flush draw.
He's often doing this with a big pair below an ace, with the intent to check behind at the river.

I dont think you can fold that turn.


If a heart falls on the river, i'd probably check/fold unless he's shown unusually erratic tendencies. Because a lot of people won't value bet top pair top kicker in those situations, much less something like kings or queens.


For blank river cards (let's say the 5 pairs) I think that you could justify bet/folding the river against most opponents.

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Posted 07 February 2006 - 09:01 PM

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For blank river cards (let's say the 5 pairs) I think that you could justify bet/folding the river against most opponents.


Why would you want to do that?

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Posted 07 February 2006 - 09:29 PM

Because he almost always checks behind with Kings, Queens or something similar - and he virtually never raises with something that we have beat. (if he's a typical, honest/reliable player)

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Posted 07 February 2006 - 09:32 PM

I thought I was too weak. Btw, no reads as this was played at school without PT. God I missed PT... I icon_suit_heart.gif PokerTracker.

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Posted 07 February 2006 - 09:40 PM

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I thought I was too weak. Btw, no reads as this was played at school without PT. God I missed PT... I icon_suit_heart.gif PokerTracker.


Get PT Pat to change your registration codes. My harddrive crashed a week ago and I just had to re-download the software and email him for a new registration code.

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Posted 07 February 2006 - 09:55 PM

I still have it at home... I was just playing at the university computer lab...lol

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Posted 07 February 2006 - 10:01 PM

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I still have it at home... I was just playing at the university computer lab...lol


lol, gotta get your fix.

I thought you meant you were at school far away or something and wouldn't have access to PT for a while.

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Posted 09 February 2006 - 09:28 AM

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i want to show this down


if you call the re-reaise on the flop i call down til the river

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Posted 09 February 2006 - 12:59 PM

Call down. A lot of aggro players will do this with KK-1010 and a hand like A10 or Aj is even a possibility.

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Posted 09 February 2006 - 07:12 PM

Does anyone fold this hand preflop, btw... SB, OOP with a potentially dominated hand from an UTG raise...

Any chance we 3-bet this?

Looking for some more opinions...

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Posted 09 February 2006 - 08:14 PM

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Does anyone fold this hand preflop, btw... SB, OOP with a potentially dominated hand from an UTG raise...

Any chance we 3-bet this?

Looking for some more opinions...


I would only fold it of I had a lot of info o nthe player

I would never 3 bet it

I also would have shown it down, there is a better chance of me check raising the turn then there is a check folding it

u played it a little weak imo

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Posted 09 February 2006 - 09:36 PM

There's a good chance that if he's on a draw, he takes a free turn after you check/raise the flop.

You do not have to show this down just because you call the flop 3bet.


I think calling the 3bet and folding the turn is better than folding to the 3bet. But i'd rather show it down here anyways.




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