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[qu2r]

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t300 (4 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Hero (t1810)
BB (t1185)
UTG (t2290)
Button (t2715)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q:diamond:, T:spade:.
2 folds

This is probably pretty routine but I wanted some other opinions on this.

Folding seems silly, of course.

Calling seems almost as silly, (unless, maybe as a stop & go).

if raise is then in order, what amount?

minraise to 600, and then fold to a reraise?
push allin?
raise 2.5, to 750?

Normally, a push here against the small stack is automatic for me.
However, it appears that if he re-pushes the same range he'd call with (assuming A8o+, all pairs, all suited Axs... maybe all broadways) then folding to the re-raise make the minraise higher equity than pushing into the same standards to call. Any higher raise amount with intention of folding seems wasted chips. But if the call/re-raise standards are the same (is that my error in assumption?) then the smaller raise looks better than the push.

The minraise with intent to call seems silly too, same result as the push without the fold equity.

So, is this correct? The push still seems more natural to me. The minraise makes sense only as a mix-it-up play to make him thinks it's a monster this time, but I just don't trust my reasoning on this.

thanks
-matt

[Swift_Psycho]

There is no way you could even min-raise and then fold to a push, so you might as well move in first yourself.

[copernicus]

Pushing is narrowly better than folding ($EV 25.53 vs $EV22.69 if its a 10 buyin, proportional otherwise) if you put him on that range for calling a push

I must be tired because Im not following your point about his re-push standards being the same as his calling standards.

If you raise (anything) and he's in range he pushes.
If you push and he's in range he calls.

Either way the same money is in with both hands.

[copernicus]

dupe

[Crazy Cypriot]

A simple, straitforward play push - enough folding equity here and an "ok" hand if called. Definitely have to push

[Rocketwadster]

Depending on the short-stacked opponent - If you don't mind busting out in fourth a lot (which will in general increase your chances of coming in first or second), then by all means push here. Your hand is only slightly better than the median (Q 7 - computer hand), so I personally wouldn't be pushing here, but rather would fold it (which may be incorrect, but I am runnign so bad this week as opposed to last week, with only one cash in 8 SNG's due to shooting for the stars/insanely bad beats). 8)