Jadaki 1 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Sorry, converter doesnt work for tourneys on FCP, I'll do my best. This is early on in the final table of a 2 table SNG. I have not lost a hand I have played to showdown at this point. This is my first pot with this villian. I am 4th in chips at this point.NO_LIMIT TEXAS_HOLDEM #72,956,372SB - Hero ($3,825 in chips)BB - Villian 1 ($5,055 in chips)UTG - Villian 2 ($3,465 in chips)BUTTON - Villian 3 ($2,175 in chips)Hero: Q 10 PRE-FLOP (blinds 75/150)UTG calls $150, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO+1 folds, CO folds, Button calls $150, Hero calls $75, BB checks.FLOP - (4 players 600 pot) A , J , 9 Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets $150, Button folds, Hero calls $150, BB folds.TURN - (2 players 900 pot) 8 Hero checks, UTG bets $300, Hero raises to $900, UTG calls $600.RIVER - (2 players 2,700 pot) 3 :club:Hero ??? He min bets the flop, to me that means either a weak ace or a draw. He calls a good sized checkraise on the turn and the river completes the club flush, bet or check? Link to post Share on other sites
Hobbes 1 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 You forgot to tell us what your cards are...do you have QT? Link to post Share on other sites
mk 11 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 yeah, a little help? Link to post Share on other sites
Rocketwadster 0 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Since your playing this hand "in the dark", I think a check is in order... Link to post Share on other sites
Jadaki 1 Posted February 2, 2006 Author Share Posted February 2, 2006 You forgot to tell us what your cards are...do you have QT?Yea, QT offsuit. I was down to 4 handed and playing a lot of pots when posting this, opps. Link to post Share on other sites
mk 11 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 I'd definitely try to extract some value on the river. 2 pair, set, maybe just an ace will call. Link to post Share on other sites
copernicus 0 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 I'd definitely try to extract some value on the river. 2 pair, set, maybe just an ace will call.Betting for value here looks good to me, and it has an added advantage of blocking a bigger bet from a weakish flush, or a bluff from a weak A that senses your concern that the flush hit if you check it. Link to post Share on other sites
Jadaki 1 Posted February 2, 2006 Author Share Posted February 2, 2006 I'd definitely try to extract some value on the river. 2 pair, set, maybe just an ace will call.Betting for value here looks good to me, and it has an added advantage of blocking a bigger bet from a weakish flush, or a bluff from a weak A that senses your concern that the flush hit if you check it.What size bet? Link to post Share on other sites
Hobbes 1 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 I'd definitely try to extract some value on the river. 2 pair, set, maybe just an ace will call.Betting for value here looks good to me, and it has an added advantage of blocking a bigger bet from a weakish flush, or a bluff from a weak A that senses your concern that the flush hit if you check it.What size bet?I agree with the bet on the river and I'd probably make it $1,000. Link to post Share on other sites
copernicus 0 Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 I'd definitely try to extract some value on the river. Â 2 pair, set, maybe just an ace will call.Betting for value here looks good to me, and it has an added advantage of blocking a bigger bet from a weakish flush, or a bluff from a weak A that senses your concern that the flush hit if you check it.What size bet?Since you probably wont be called by anything except the flush it shouldnt be too sensitive to bet size. Id go with 800. Too much less begins could get bluffed at too easily. Link to post Share on other sites
bcook823 0 Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 The blocker bet on the river is a nice play in this spot. If the UTG player is the type that would be leading out with just two clubs, then I would have raised more on the turn. Your giving him 3.5-1 and most will call because of the implied odds. Link to post Share on other sites
copernicus 0 Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 The blocker bet on the river is a nice play in this spot. If the UTG player is the type that would be leading out with just two clubs, then I would have raised more on the turn. Your giving him 3.5-1 and most will call because of the implied odds.You cant bet too much more. At 3.5:1 he's already overpaying for the draw, and we dont want to price him out totally...we want him to call. If you go to, say 1500 ("pot size raise"), 1200 to go for him, he's in for half of his stack if he calls, and will probably fold. If youre happy with the pot where it is then push. Link to post Share on other sites
bcook823 0 Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 The blocker bet on the river is a nice play in this spot. If the UTG player is the type that would be leading out with just two clubs, then I would have raised more on the turn. Your giving him 3.5-1 and most will call because of the implied odds.You cant bet too much more. At 3.5:1 he's already overpaying for the draw, and we dont want to price him out totally...we want him to call. If you go to, say 1500 ("pot size raise"), 1200 to go for him, he's in for half of his stack if he calls, and will probably fold. If youre happy with the pot where it is then push.Fair enough. If you "knew" he had Ac 8c what would you raise? Link to post Share on other sites
copernicus 0 Posted February 4, 2006 Share Posted February 4, 2006 The blocker bet on the river is a nice play in this spot. If the UTG player is the type that would be leading out with just two clubs, then I would have raised more on the turn. Your giving him 3.5-1 and most will call because of the implied odds.You cant bet too much more. At 3.5:1 he's already overpaying for the draw, and we dont want to price him out totally...we want him to call. If you go to, say 1500 ("pot size raise"), 1200 to go for him, he's in for half of his stack if he calls, and will probably fold. If youre happy with the pot where it is then push.Fair enough. If you "knew" he had Ac 8c what would you raise?With 12 outs instead of 8 I would probably be more inclined to push him out now. I would want to make it clear hes priced out, which means 4.5:1 or worse, and betting that much I might as well push. Link to post Share on other sites
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