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[Absolute]

I brought in $15 to the table and played ~200 hands. Ended up with 19.25, not an amazingly profitable session, but not bad either.Here are a few hands you might want to discuss.------------------PokerStars Game #1253446547: Hold'em Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2005/02/22 -09:11:07 (ET)Table 'Buryatia' Seat #2 is the buttonSeat 1: nelijo11 ($8 in chips) Seat 2: bull7272 ($8.90 in chips) Seat 3: Mopsie ($14.90 in chips) Seat 4: SlippyJacks ($15.60 in chips) Seat 5: T&J's Mom ($18.25 in chips) Seat 7: BPV3 ($16.95 in chips) Seat 8: Kiowa05 ($4.40 in chips) Seat 9: snacher ($9.75 in chips) Seat 10: LPW13 ($53.55 in chips) Mopsie: posts small blind $0.10SlippyJacks: posts big blind $0.25netnode: sits out nelijo11: posts big blind $0.25*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to SlippyJacks [Qc Jd]T&J's Mom: folds BPV3: calls $0.25Kiowa05: folds snacher: calls $0.25LPW13: raises $0.25 to $0.50nelijo11: folds bull7272: folds Mopsie: folds SlippyJacks: calls $0.25BPV3: calls $0.25snacher: calls $0.25Sometimes I will put on the brakes with QJ off, but I feel like I should defend my big blind here with four players to the flop.*** FLOP *** [9s Tc 8s]SlippyJacks: bets $0.25BPV3: calls $0.25snacher: calls $0.25LPW13: raises $0.25 to $0.50SlippyJacks: raises $0.25 to $0.75BPV3: folds snacher: calls $0.50LPW13: calls $0.25Something warm and cozy and flopping the hard nuts. Some might argue a check/raise here, but with four players, flush draw, etc. I always bet out/re-raise/cap here. Duh.*** TURN *** [9s Tc 8s] [3h]SlippyJacks: bets $0.50snacher: calls $0.50LPW13: calls $0.50I feel a check here would be a free card for them both.*** RIVER *** [9s Tc 8s 3h] [2s]SlippyJacks: bets $0.50snacher: calls $0.50LPW13: folds Scare card, but have to bet/call a raise here with my investment.--------------------------Table 'Buryatia' Seat #7 is the buttonSeat 1: Wizzard711 ($10 in chips) Seat 2: bull7272 ($8.90 in chips) Seat 3: Mopsie ($17.05 in chips) Seat 4: SlippyJacks ($19.10 in chips) Seat 5: T&J's Mom ($17.90 in chips) Seat 6: netnode ($4.65 in chips) Seat 7: allinbluff35 ($3 in chips) Seat 8: Kiowa05 ($3.40 in chips) Seat 9: snacher ($9.10 in chips) Seat 10: LPW13 ($53.55 in chips) Kiowa05: posts small blind $0.10snacher: posts big blind $0.25Wizzard711: posts big blind $0.25*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to SlippyJacks [As 5s]LPW13: folds Wizzard711: checks bull7272: folds Mopsie: folds SlippyJacks: calls $0.25T&J's Mom: folds SlippyJacks said, "what do you usually play"netnode: folds allinbluff35: folds Kiowa05: folds snacher: raises $0.25 to $0.50Wizzard711: folds SlippyJacks: calls $0.25I know, muck A5 suited to a raise, but this particular player was playing most starting hands, and I felt I had a good feel for him, so I defended BB and got heads up with what I was pretty sure was the best hand pre-flop.*** FLOP *** [7d 3c 5c]snacher: bets $0.25SlippyJacks: raises $0.25 to $0.50snacher: calls $0.25I like being aggressive here (only would do this heads-up) to see where I'm at. His bet could have very well been with overcards, and his slowing down to my raise makes me think that it was.*** TURN *** [7d 3c 5c] [4d]snacher: checks SlippyJacks: bets $0.50snacher: calls $0.50Now I know he's beat. His check eliminates the six or any draw I could put him on here.*** RIVER *** [7d 3c 5c 4d] [Ad]snacher: checks SlippyJacks: bets $0.50snacher: calls $0.50A case for aggression?----------------------------------------Here's a hand I might have played poorly.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to SlippyJacks [Kd Th]Wizzard711: folds bull7272: folds Mopsie: folds SlippyJacks: calls $0.25T&J's Mom: folds netnode: calls $0.25allinbluff35: calls $0.25Kiowa05: calls $0.25snacher: calls $0.15LPW13: checks Call in MP with K10 off at this particular table.*** FLOP *** [2h Td Qc]snacher: bets $0.25LPW13: folds SlippyJacks: calls $0.25netnode: folds allinbluff35: folds Kiowa05: folds Same guy, he never checks a flop. And with middle pair and a good kicker, I'll play his game. (Again, im 85% sure I am winning here.)*** TURN *** [2h Td Qc] [2d]snacher: bets $0.50SlippyJacks: calls $0.50I could fold here, eh.*** RIVER *** [2h Td Qc 2d] [6d]snacher: bets $0.50SlippyJacks: calls $0.50What could he really have now? I'll call and see.*** SHOW DOWN ***snacher: shows [2c Tc] (a full house, Deuces full of Tens)SlippyJacks: mucks hand snacher collected $4 from potof course you complete with 2-10 suited.-------------------------------------------------------------I don't even want to talk about it.....Seat 1: Wizzard711 ($11.35 in chips) Seat 2: bull7272 ($6.80 in chips) Seat 3: Mopsie ($16.10 in chips) Seat 4: SlippyJacks ($19 in chips) Seat 5: T&J's Mom ($17 in chips) Seat 6: netnode ($5.30 in chips) Seat 7: allinbluff35 ($5.50 in chips) Seat 9: snacher ($8.55 in chips) Seat 10: LPW13 ($55.40 in chips) netnode: posts small blind $0.10allinbluff35: posts big blind $0.25balloo21: sits out *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to SlippyJacks [Js Jh]snacher: raises $0.25 to $0.50LPW13: folds Wizzard711: calls $0.50bull7272: folds Mopsie: calls $0.50SlippyJacks: raises $0.25 to $0.75T&J's Mom: calls $0.75netnode: folds allinbluff35: raises $0.25 to $1Betting is cappedsnacher: calls $0.50Wizzard711: calls $0.50Mopsie: calls $0.50SlippyJacks: calls $0.25T&J's Mom: calls $0.25I bet/raise/cap with JJ.*** FLOP *** [6c Tc 4s]allinbluff35: checks snacher: checks Wizzard711: checks Mopsie: checks SlippyJacks: bets $0.25T&J's Mom: folds allinbluff35: calls $0.25snacher: calls $0.25Wizzard711: calls $0.25Mopsie: calls $0.25I know I have the best hand on the flop, but China decided to call me with $409759765 in the pot.*** TURN *** [6c Tc 4s] [Qh]allinbluff35: bets $0.50snacher: calls $0.50Wizzard711: folds Mopsie: calls $0.50SlippyJacks: calls $0.50@$*^#@%@!!*** RIVER *** [6c Tc 4s Qh] [7s]allinbluff35: bets $0.50snacher: calls $0.50Mopsie: folds SlippyJacks: calls $0.50Sometimes I hate small stakes poker.*** SHOW DOWN ***allinbluff35: shows [Qd Ac] (a pair of Queens)snacher: shows [Qc Ad] (a pair of Queens)SlippyJacks: mucks hand allinbluff35 collected $5.20 from potsnacher collected $5.15 from potI don't like the capping with AQ off. Or calling the cap with AQ off. But I guess it isn't a horrible play either. Maybe I should have folded?

[NormanHaupt]

thats what yoiu get for playing against allinbluff.Cap it cap it cap it cap it cap it

[allinbluff35]

I know I have the best hand on the flop, but China decided to call me with $409759765 in the pot. JJ is the hand that will break you. I play NL exclusively because I suck at limit holdem and cant gather the concepts together in my head. With that said I'm used to raising with AQ with multiple people in the pot and the other fun hands like that. My question is how did you know that you had the best hand after the flop? Any person in the hand could have 1010,66,44,QQ,KK, or AA. Half of those hands you are drawing to runner runner and other 3 you are drawing to 1 of 2 outs. Maybe I don't understand concepts of limit holdem very well but you could have been easily dominated on the flop.

[Absolute]

The hands I had to worry about with the capped action before the flop were AA, KK, and QQ.So when the flop got checked around to me, I was pretty sure JJ was the best hand at that moment (and it was)

[allinbluff35]

yah definately you are right with thinking that you have the best hand, I didn't even realize that it was checked around. But one of those sneaky bastards could have been slowplaying and checkraise you like they did to me .

[Smasharoo]

My question is how did you know that you had the best hand after the flop? Any person in the hand could have 1010,66,44,QQ,KK, or AA. Half of those hands you are drawing to runner runner and other 3 you are drawing to 1 of 2 outs. Maybe I don't understand concepts of limit holdem very well but you could have been easily dominated on the flop.He only has to win this pot one time in 4 for it to be profitable.Do you see why?

[allinbluff35]

I play NL exclusively because I suck at limit holdem and cant gather the concepts together in my head. Here is a quote from my first reply to the reason why I don't play Limit Holdem.