Dratj 0 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Multiple limpers 0.25/0.50 nl game. I had about 16 dollars left and A 10 off.flop comes A 10 8 with 2 clubs.pot is about 2.50 dollars.I bet 2 dollars, person behind me raises 2 dollars and has me covered. I push all in thinking that he's on a flush draw and want him to pay for it. When he calls, I was thinking that maybe he had A 8, 10 8 or 8 8 (hoping this was not the case). He flips over AA!!! I was dead in the water.Question is, anyway that I could have got away with laying this down or by losing less? No club hit on the turn or river, so I could not have layed this down thinking he made his flush draw if he was on one. I think my money would have all ended up in the middle anyways. Link to post Share on other sites
CardWarfare 4 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Multiple limpers 0.25/0.50 nl game. I had about 16 dollars left and A 10 off.flop comes A 10 8 with 2 clubs.pot is about 2.50 dollars.I bet 2 dollars, person behind me raises 2 dollars and has me covered. I push all in thinking that he's on a flush draw and want him to pay for it. When he calls, I was thinking that maybe he had A 8, 10 8 or 8 8 (hoping this was not the case). He flips over AA!!! I was dead in the water.Question is, anyway that I could have got away with laying this down or by losing less? No club hit on the turn or river, so I could not have layed this down thinking he made his flush draw if he was on one. I think my money would have all ended up in the middle anyways.Depends on your read of the player, but from your description it smells fishy, considering the pf limp and min. raise. I generally get wary of min raises unless it's against a player who does it routinely. I've gotten burned too many times by sets min raising, which has made me very cautious.That said, it's a tough spot. If you re-raise anything significant you commit yourself, but if you just call, you run the risk of losing value with the best hand. Link to post Share on other sites
jdavidfix 0 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 I think your flop push makes you money in the long run. Unless you have an incredible read on your opponent and know that he is not raising with anything less than the current nuts, I do not see any way you can fold this hand. You are currently ahead of everything but two case hands and 88. Even if he has a combination straight and flush draw, which is a possibility, you are coin-flipping. I have not done the math here, but my inclination is that you are a slight favorite against a combo draw. I think pushing is definitely correct. Even if you do not push, I think all the money is going in on the turn. If you just call his flop raise, the pot is at $10.50, and you barely cover that. Unless a scare card comes on the turn and you know for a fact that he has hit huge, I think you go broke on this hand. If the turn comes a blank, I cannot see folding to a push considering the ratio of pot to stack. I say go broke, reload, and look for an opportunity to make it back. Link to post Share on other sites
pokerplayer24 0 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 You're not getting away from it...everEven if you had 100 bb its unlikely you can fold it. With 32 bb no chance. Link to post Share on other sites
Davin 0 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Multiple limpers 0.25/0.50 nl game. I had about 16 dollars left and A 10 off.flop comes A 10 8 with 2 clubs.pot is about 2.50 dollars.I bet 2 dollars, person behind me raises 2 dollars and has me covered. I push all in thinking that he's on a flush draw and want him to pay for it. When he calls, I was thinking that maybe he had A 8, 10 8 or 8 8 (hoping this was not the case). He flips over AA!!! I was dead in the water.Question is, anyway that I could have got away with laying this down or by losing less? No club hit on the turn or river, so I could not have layed this down thinking he made his flush draw if he was on one. I think my money would have all ended up in the middle anyways.Depends on your read of the player, but from your description it smells fishy, considering the pf limp and min. raise. I generally get wary of min raises unless it's against a player who does it routinely. I've gotten burned too many times by sets min raising, which has made me very cautious.That said, it's a tough spot. If you re-raise anything significant you commit yourself, but if you just call, you run the risk of losing value with the best hand.to say that we could have gotten away from his hand is just straight lying... unless we were the weakest player in the world Link to post Share on other sites
Scott3705 0 Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 You MIGHT get away from this if you were deeper stacked. Maybe, As is, no chance given the texture of the flop. Link to post Share on other sites
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