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[KDawgCometh]

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (8 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is SB with [Ah :heart: ], [3c :club: ]. MP2 posts a blind of $0.5. CO posts a blind of $0.75. 1 fold, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, CO calls, Button calls, Hero calls.Flop: (13.50 SB) [Jh :heart: ], [8h :heart: ], [Qh :heart: ] (6 players)Hero bets, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, CO calls, Button calls, Hero calls.Turn: (12.75 BB) [Qs :spade: ] (6 players)Hero checks, BB bets, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, CO folds, Button calls, Hero calls.River: (16.75 BB) [Ac :club: ] (4 players)Hero checks, BB bets, MP1 calls, Button calls, Hero folds.Final Pot: 19.75 BBI first called from the small blind because of how many were in the pot, the call of the raise was automatic because of the pot size. I think that I made a massive mistake on the end by folding as I'd only have to win this pot 1 time in 20. I just didn't think my kicker would be good. I think I made a big mistake though since I hit a different hand then i was going for

[MrConceit]

KDawgCometh said:

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (8 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is SB with [Ah :heart: ], [3c :club: ]. MP2 posts a blind of $0.5. CO posts a blind of $0.75. 1 fold, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, CO calls, Button calls, Hero calls.Flop: (13.50 SB) [Jh :heart: ], [8h :heart: ], [Qh :heart: ] (6 players)Hero bets, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, CO calls, Button calls, Hero calls.Turn: (12.75 BB) [Qs :spade: ] (6 players)Hero checks, BB bets, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, CO folds, Button calls, Hero calls.River: (16.75 BB) [Ac :club: ] (4 players)Hero checks, BB bets, MP1 calls, Button calls, Hero folds.Final Pot: 19.75 BBI first called from the small blind because of how many were in the pot, the call of the raise was automatic because of the pot size. I think that I made a massive mistake on the end by folding as I'd only have to win this pot 1 time in 20. I just didn't think my kicker would be good. I think I made a big mistake though since I hit a different hand then i was going for

Yeah I think your fold on the end is wrong. If MP1 or Button had a Q I think you would have seen a raise by now. And the only Ax that beats you is AK, AQ (not counting AA hah). If you still called on the turn on your nut flush draw on a paired board, I think you HAVE to call on the river. The J on the flop makes no kickers play other than AK. I really don't know what all those overcallers have, but if they didn't raise on the turn/river I really don't think they have your ace pair beat. And the pot size makes it worth seeing if BB has AK or a random Qx hand.The time to fold the hand, if you were going to, is when the turn paired the Q. Since you're at the river anyway, I think you call with your ace pair where no kickers play but AK.[edit]Well I guess I didn't address somebody already had the made flush, but I really think they woulda raised by now if they did. Unless they got utterly teriffied by turn pairing. But the same reasoning stands and you ARE closing the action. Nobody has every shown an ounce of aggression except BB who has never stopped. Only likely hands that beat you are AA, AK, AQ, QQ, JJ, and you're already in a huge pot, call 1 more BB and see what happens.

[Absolute]

Yikes, if you are going to play A3 unsuited this kind of thing is going to happen to you.I would have called the river.

[wrto4556]

I fold this pre-flop. A3o is horrible.Im betting the flop and calling a raise, and check/calling from then on out.The pot is too big on the river to fold. You aren't going to have the best hand much as BB has a flush or trips, but the times he shows J8 or K J you are going to be glad you called.

[KDawgCometh]

the preflop call was(kinda foolishyly) based on the fact that five people were in a head of me and it was a half bet that needed to be called. When the raise happened with all of the call it was then correct(?) in my mind based on the odds as I'd have to win one time in 14 with the hand. Obviously on the flop the call was correct w/the nut flush draw. A3o is a very good amount of the time a hand I wouldn't even consider playing.

[wrto4556]

KDawgCometh said:

the preflop call was(kinda foolishyly) based on the fact that five people were in a head of me and it was a half bet that needed to be called. When the raise happened with all of the call it was then correct(?) in my mind based on the odds as I'd have to win one time in 14 with the hand. Obviously on the flop the call was correct w/the nut flush draw. A3o is a very good amount of the time a hand I wouldn't even consider playing.

There was alot of people in the pot, but A4-AK has you dominated on an ace. The only flop you can hope for is the one you got, or 245...but even in the last one you have to be careful of 63.It's a trouble hand no matter the size of the pot.