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#1 Absolute

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Posted 21 February 2005 - 09:01 PM

it's not like these guys wrote a book called "how to cheat at poker and why it's the right thing to do"some of you act like you have never done the "wrong thing" before. whenever money is on the line, people are always looking for a little edge. that's how you make money. do you think bill gates is a billionaire because he is a moral and sensitive man?i'm not trying to say they did the right thing, but this is a ****ing poker forum, go be over sensitive elsewhere.and seriously, do any of you REALLY care? are you going to tell your girlfriend about it or ponder it before you go to sleep? so all of you that can't seem to get over it, go for a little jog in between episodes of oprah and let it go.peace

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Posted 21 February 2005 - 09:02 PM

Amen.
Suggestive thinking, causing your perspective to change

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I can find, satisfaction in a bag of weed
Everything I need, leave it to the trees
It can make me feel better, and every day I wake
Niggas rollin' up blunts, and mo blunts, and mo blunts
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So when I'm rollin', smokin', chokin', just floatin

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Posted 21 February 2005 - 09:03 PM

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and seriously, do any of you REALLY care? are you going to tell your girlfriend about it or ponder it before you go to sleep? so all of you that can't seem to get over it, go for a little jog in between episodes of oprah and let it go.peace
:D Hints my, "get over it".

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Posted 21 February 2005 - 09:04 PM

Absolute said:

it's not like these guys wrote a book called "how to cheat at poker and why it's the right thing to do"some of you act like you have never done the "wrong thing" before. whenever money is on the line, people are always looking for a little edge. that's how you make money. do you think bill gates is a billionaire because he is a moral and sensitive man?i'm not trying to say they did the right thing, but this is a censored poker forum, go be over sensitive elsewhere.and seriously, do any of you REALLY care? are you going to tell your girlfriend about it or ponder it before you go to sleep? so all of you that can't seem to get over it, go for a little jog in between episodes of oprah and let it go.peace
maybe next time you might be the one that gets cheated...theres no room for this in poker or on the forum,,sure,it takes place, but why condone it...and yes shrugging it off is just as good as condoning it...im sure danny wouldnt be pleased that ppl were cheating in a touney named after him ,played in by ppl on HIS WEBSITE,,,im not saying this is everything, but its not nothing either
Good times for a change
See, the luck I've had
Can make a good man
Turn bad

So please please please
Let me, let me, let me
Let me get what I want
This time

Haven't had a dream in a long time
See, the life I've had
Can make a good man bad

So for once in my life
Let me get what I want
Lord knows, it would be the first time
Lord knows, it would be the first time

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Posted 21 February 2005 - 09:06 PM

iveyfan30 said:

Absolute said:

it's not like these guys wrote a book called "how to cheat at poker and why it's the right thing to do"some of you act like you have never done the "wrong thing" before. whenever money is on the line, people are always looking for a little edge. that's how you make money. do you think bill gates is a billionaire because he is a moral and sensitive man?i'm not trying to say they did the right thing, but this is a censored poker forum, go be over sensitive elsewhere.and seriously, do any of you REALLY care? are you going to tell your girlfriend about it or ponder it before you go to sleep? so all of you that can't seem to get over it, go for a little jog in between episodes of oprah and let it go.peace
maybe next time you might be the one that gets cheated...theres no room for this in poker or on the forum,,sure,it takes place, but why condone it...and yes shrugging it off is just as good as condoning it...im sure danny wouldnt be pleased that ppl were cheating in a touney named after him ,played in by ppl on HIS WEBSITE,,,im not saying this is everything, but its not nothing either
You, sir, are an idiot. Where in any thread did it say we cheated in the Negreanu Open.This is a clasic case of "he tells one person and she tells one person and she tells one person and he tells one person", and then all of a sudden, instead of jim going to the prop with ann its, jim is a homosexual that was skinny dipping with john after the football game.

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Posted 21 February 2005 - 09:08 PM

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wrote: maybe next time you might be the one that gets cheated...theres no room for this in poker or on the forum,,sure,it takes place, but why condone it...and yes shrugging it off is just as good as condoning it...im sure danny wouldnt be pleased that ppl were cheating in a touney named after him ,played in by ppl on HIS WEBSITE,,,im not saying this is everything, but its not nothing either
i bet daniel likes to speak for himselfshould i have appropriately formatted that statement like this (being in reply to yours)i bet,,, daniel likz.......,,,, to speek for himself///////

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Posted 21 February 2005 - 09:09 PM

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iveyfan30 said:

Absolute said:

it's not like these guys wrote a book called "how to cheat at poker and why it's the right thing to do"some of you act like you have never done the "wrong thing" before. whenever money is on the line, people are always looking for a little edge. that's how you make money. do you think bill gates is a billionaire because he is a moral and sensitive man?i'm not trying to say they did the right thing, but this is a censored poker forum, go be over sensitive elsewhere.and seriously, do any of you REALLY care? are you going to tell your girlfriend about it or ponder it before you go to sleep? so all of you that can't seem to get over it, go for a little jog in between episodes of oprah and let it go.peace
maybe next time you might be the one that gets cheated...theres no room for this in poker or on the forum,,sure,it takes place, but why condone it...and yes shrugging it off is just as good as condoning it...im sure danny wouldnt be pleased that ppl were cheating in a touney named after him ,played in by ppl on HIS WEBSITE,,,im not saying this is everything, but its not nothing either
You, sir, are an idiot. Where in any thread did it say we cheated in the Negreanu Open.i apologize i thought it was dns tourney....i am sorry....This is a clasic case of "he tells one person and she tells one person and she tells one person and he tells one person", and then all of a sudden, instead of jim going to the prop with ann its, jim is a homosexual that was skinny dipping with john after the football game.

Good times for a change
See, the luck I've had
Can make a good man
Turn bad

So please please please
Let me, let me, let me
Let me get what I want
This time

Haven't had a dream in a long time
See, the life I've had
Can make a good man bad

So for once in my life
Let me get what I want
Lord knows, it would be the first time
Lord knows, it would be the first time

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Posted 21 February 2005 - 09:11 PM

I've chosen to stay out of this debate outside of Akishore's post, because I feel that I'd be a hypocrite to judge them wrongly or rightly. WRTO has added a lot of good content and it will not change my opinion of him. Look yourself in the mirror and ask yourself are you happy with yourself, not the other guy

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Posted 21 February 2005 - 09:12 PM

KDawgCometh said:

I've chosen to stay out of this debate outside of Akishore's post, because I feel that I'd be a hypocrite to judge them wrongly or rightly. WRTO has added a lot of good content and it will not change my opinion of him. Look yourself in the mirror and ask yourself are you happy with yourself, not the other guy
Thank you.

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Posted 21 February 2005 - 09:15 PM

KDawgCometh said:

I've chosen to stay out of this debate outside of Akishore's post, because I feel that I'd be a hypocrite to judge them wrongly or rightly. WRTO has added a lot of good content and it will not change my opinion of him. Look yourself in the mirror and ask yourself are you happy with yourself, not the other guy
i agree.. i have always respected wrto...i would like to believe the best and say he didnt do it,,,as far as letting dn speak for himeslf,,im sure he will love the fact ppl cheated..lol ..geeze...i hope this is all a joke or a misunderstaning....i have never cheated,or thought about it...not saying that im a better person,,i just wouldnt be able to live with myself if i did,..
Good times for a change
See, the luck I've had
Can make a good man
Turn bad

So please please please
Let me, let me, let me
Let me get what I want
This time

Haven't had a dream in a long time
See, the life I've had
Can make a good man bad

So for once in my life
Let me get what I want
Lord knows, it would be the first time
Lord knows, it would be the first time

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Posted 21 February 2005 - 09:25 PM

iveyfan30 said:

KDawgCometh said:

I've chosen to stay out of this debate outside of Akishore's post, because I feel that I'd be a hypocrite to judge them wrongly or rightly. WRTO has added a lot of good content and it will not change my opinion of him. Look yourself in the mirror and ask yourself are you happy with yourself, not the other guy
i agree.. i have always respected wrto...i would like to believe the best and say he didnt do it,,,as far as letting dn speak for himeslf,,im sure he will love the fact ppl cheated..lol ..geeze...i hope this is all a joke or a misunderstaning....i have never cheated,or thought about it...not saying that im a better person,,i just wouldnt be able to live with myself if i did,..
I'm sorry to dissappoint you, but I have cheated. I'de post a whole new thread, but I don't feel like I should have to defend myself any further.

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Posted 21 February 2005 - 09:30 PM

finally, a thread that isn't turning into a slugfest. This is specifically how I feel about it all. Its over, I really doubt either of these guys cheated in a DN. I'm defending wrto, and, I guess, to a lesser extent stein. We may disagree about many of things, but I'll defend their right to believe what they want as long as they don't harm me. If they want to go to a casino and cheat and run the risk of being caught they take that into their hands, I guess. Unless I'm convinced that either of these coordinate online via instant messanger or whatever, I'm not holding it against them. I know drug dealers and a car thief. I don't judge because I've done irrmoral things in my history too I am not proud of. Akishore is having a vent thread and everyone's getting it out. No personal attacks are necessary.live and let live. Check your PM's too, wrto please. thanks bro
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Posted 21 February 2005 - 09:31 PM

some people need to loosen up about this whole situation they act like stein and wrto murdered someone... they didnt go in to detail or give tips on cheating they more or less mentioned it in passing... when you play poker you look to make money and if it's against people you have no care for sometimes you want to take an edge. Regardless of the situation wrto has contributed more to the form than just about anyone else here with the exception of a select few... so just get off his back

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Posted 21 February 2005 - 09:32 PM

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finally, a thread that isn't turning into a slugfest. This is specifically how I feel about it all. Its over, I really doubt either of these guys cheated in a DN. I'm defending wrto, and, I guess, to a lesser extent stein. We may disagree about many of things, but I'll defend their right to believe what they want as long as they don't harm me. If they want to go to a casino and cheat and run the risk of being caught they take that into their hands, I guess. Unless I'm convinced that either of these coordinate online via instant messanger or whatever, I'm not holding it against them. I know drug dealers and a car thief. I don't judge because I've done irrmoral things in my history too I am not proud of. Akishore is having a vent thread and everyone's getting it out. No personal attacks are necessary.live and let live. Check your PM's too, wrto please. thanks bro
No offense, but it's these threads that make me look bad. Don't say, "If they want to go to a casino and cheat let'em." That was never my intent. Everyone mis-understood.....ah **** it.

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Posted 21 February 2005 - 10:14 PM

Well, then, for that you have my apoligies, it was not my intention.
Suddenly I turned around
And she was standin' there
With silver bracelets on her wrists
And flowers in her hair.
She walked up to me so gracefully
And took my crown of thorns.
"Come in," she said,
"I'll give you shelter from the storm."

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Posted 21 February 2005 - 10:34 PM

I like girls who cheat on their boyfriends with me.

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Posted 21 February 2005 - 10:40 PM

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I like girls who cheat on their boyfriends with me.
haha. btw, if someone makes another topic about this crap im gonna get really pissed.

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Posted 22 February 2005 - 01:23 PM

did i miss something here?

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Posted 22 February 2005 - 01:49 PM

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did i miss something here?
They both posted in a thread about bad folds about a time where they mentioned having cheated on an occasion, and boom, nineteen thousand threads about cheating ensued.

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Posted 22 February 2005 - 04:54 PM

Solodell said:

bigkg said:

did i miss something here?
They both posted in a thread about bad folds about a time where they mentioned having cheated on an occasion, and boom, nineteen thousand threads about cheating ensued.
not to mention everybody and their brother trying to say that Stein and WRTO are awful people. It was really just the pack following the lead once the ball got rolling, kinda lame really




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