big hand, big pot, big loss

[jimmybaker04 0]

Ok, so I don't normally play at this limit but I have been running good, and I think it is important to step up a limit or two every now and then and test yourself. I am a creative player, especially short handed and had raised frequently pre-flop. I had been sitting at the table for about 100 hands. The biggest pot I took down was with a set of 6s over top two. To the best of my knowledge I only showed down one bluff (in a losing effort.) I did, however, show some marginal starting hands that panned out. I just re-raised the last two pots in a row, one on a semi- steal (K4s), the very last hand leading into this I had QQ. I can assure you my table image was way more LAG than I actually am.My reads of the table would be: SB straight forward, very tight. BB tough, solid player. Fairly straight forward. UTG very aggressive with draws, but rarely bluffs the river if he misses. UTG+1 huge fish/donkey. Button very aggressive with strong hands. Contests most pots he is in.6 handed $10/$20NL FTP SB $1,940BB (Villain) $9,822UTG $4,576UTG+1 $922Hero $6,006 hole cards: KdKcButton $9,454Folds to UTG+1 who raises to $60Hero re-raises to $210Button, SB foldVillain raises to $1,210UTG+1 calls and is all-inHero re-raises all-inVillain callsUTG+1 shows 8h4d (claims it was getting late and he could use the triple up?)Villain shows AcAsAces held up.Obviously it is easy to look back and be like "dude, he totally had aces."First, I will RARELY let KK go online. To the best of my recollection I have only done it once in my life and it was live, and I was wrong (showed JJ.) I didn't feel like this was a time to let the cowboys hit the muck based on a few things:a) my table imageB) I felt as though UTG+1 was most likely holding an Ace. He would not be calling all-in with small to mid pair. I didn't realize he had totally lost interest, and there was really no sign of that leading in. That being said it seemed unlikely that villain held AA. The flop came eight high, and the board stayed 8 high until the river, which brought a jack. I see almost no way short of being poker's superman, that I should have gotten away from this hand pre or post flop. Anyone agree? By the way I obviously lost 6k on this hand so try not to be too harsh. Between the market and this hand, Friday totally sucked!Oh and for anyone who this makes a difference to, Villain is Paul Wolfe and Button is Phil Ivey.

[portcityplayer 0]

Ok, so I don't normally play at this limit but I have been running good, and I think it is important to step up a limit or two every now and then and test yourself. I am a creative player, especially short handed and had raised frequently pre-flop. I had been sitting at the table for about 100 hands. The biggest pot I took down was with a set of 6s over top two. To the best of my knowledge I only showed down one bluff (in a losing effort.) I did, however, show some marginal starting hands that panned out. I just re-raised the last two pots in a row, one on a semi- steal (K4s), the very last hand leading into this I had QQ. I can assure you my table image was way more LAG than I actually am.My reads of the table would be: SB straight forward, very tight. BB tough, solid player. Fairly straight forward. UTG very aggressive with draws, but rarely bluffs the river if he misses. UTG+1 huge fish/donkey. Button very aggressive with strong hands. Contests most pots he is in.6 handed $10/$20NL FTP SB $1,940BB (Villain) $9,822UTG $4,576UTG+1 $922Hero $6,006 hole cards: KdKcButton $9,454Folds to UTG+1 who raises to $60Hero re-raises to $210Button, SB foldVillain raises to $1,210UTG+1 calls and is all-inHero re-raises all-inVillain callsUTG+1 shows 8h4d (claims it was getting late and he could use the triple up?)Villain shows AcAsAces held up.Obviously it is easy to look back and be like "dude, he totally had aces."First, I will RARELY let KK go online. To the best of my recollection I have only done it once in my life and it was live, and I was wrong (showed JJ.) I didn't feel like this was a time to let the cowboys hit the much based on a few things:a) my table imageB) I felt as though UTG+1 was most likely holding an Ace. He would not be calling all-in with small to mid pair. I didn't realize he had totally lost interest, and there was really no sign of that leading in. That being said it seemed unlikely that villain held AA. The flop came eight high, and the board stayed 8 high until the river, which brought a jack. I see almost no way short of being poker's superman, that I should have gotten away from this hand pre or post flop. Anyone agree? By the way I obviously lost 6k on this hand so try not to be too harsh. Between the market and this hand, Friday totally sucked!Oh and for anyone who this makes a difference to, Villain is Paul Wolfe and Button is Phil Ivey.

You're probably going to end up all-in anyway, but I might've called the re-raise and pushed on a safe flop. If he pushes all-in in front of me for $4000, at this level, I'd have to take it seriously... I don't know what I'd do, I've never been faced with a $4000 bet with KK. I'd probably swallow my tounge. Tough break, I think most people go broke here. You did say the BB was a tough solid player. Do you think he'd push all-in pre-flop with QQ-22 or AK? He might given your table image.

[jimmybaker04 0]

I'd probably swallow my tounge. Tough break, I think most people go broke here. You did say the BB was a tough solid player. Do you think he'd push all-in pre-flop with QQ-22 or AK? He might given your table image.

I think he would have fired back with QQ-1010 maybe even 99. I don't think so with AK. I am pretty sure he would have called w/ AK and seen a flop. He is not reckless enough and it is too high stakes to push AK like that, especially out of position.I would honestly have been more likely to believe that he had AA if he had raised less. i made a pretty big re-raise about 3.5x the standard raise. He drops the hammer with a 5x re-raise. No one had gone to over 1k preflop since I had been there. His hand clearly had no use for a flop; my gut said he had JJ or 1010. That was obviously before he called.I could have called and see a flop, but why? I would have about 20% of my stack in the pot, and the highest card out there was an 8. Given the hand range we just went over, he could not have tripped, so I am forced with the same decision. I can't censored sleep

[DrawingDeadInDM 0]

That's a sick feeling.Been there.Not for 6k, but for 2,200.If it makes ya feel any better, you're going broke here no matter what. If you smooth call you're going to push the flop. You played it perfect and went broke--shitty deal. At that level, people will push with less than AA because of the scared money factor. That you can't really call with anything other than AA or KK. You're likely laying down JJ, TT, or maybe even QQ. Sucks man. Played it right though.

[jimmybaker04 0]

That's a sick feeling.Been there.Not for 6k, but for 2,200.If it makes ya feel any better, you're going broke here no matter what. If you smooth call you're going to push the flop. You played it perfect and went broke--shitty deal. At that level, people will push with less than AA because of the scared money factor. That you can't really call with anything other than AA or KK. You're likely laying down JJ, TT, or maybe even QQ. Sucks man. Played it right though.

Thanks dude.All in all it was an enjoyable hundred hands and I was able to turn just over 1.7k to 6k before I shit the bed.If the goal was to test my skills, I feel I passed. But so much of playing at this level is the stomach for the loss, and thusfar I feel I have failed that test.