$50 to $1000 on pstars day 21

[Smasharoo 0]

The GoalTo turn $50 in my first Pokerstars deposit into $1000.The RulesI'll play only Limit games, primarily Holdem, though I might mix in some O8 or Stud etc. later on.I won't move up in limits without at least 300BB for the new limit. I will post hands that I win and lose and explain my thinking behind how I played them.I'm too lazy to spellcheck. Deal with it.Win some, lose some, get beat bloody some...Finnaly had a loser, and whooo boy was it ever a loser.A big -55BB downswing whopper of a loser.Some of the carnage:*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Kc Qh]thecandle: raises $0.25 to $0.50steveed3: folds Anneke1: folds DRLNGBALL: calls $0.50bomblade: folds BuddyB13: folds Matt In UK: folds Qball40: folds cindy920: folds I rase KQ in early and get one caller.*** FLOP *** [Ac Js Ks]thecandle: bets $0.25DRLNGBALL: raises $0.25 to $0.50thecandle: calls $0.25I figure he has two pair or maybe a queen.*** TURN *** [Ac Js Ks] [5d]thecandle: checks DRLNGBALL: bets $0.50thecandle: calls $0.50Maybe not a bad time to fold in a pot this small, but heads up I'm going to show this down. Also have outs to the T.*** RIVER *** [Ac Js Ks 5d] [3d]thecandle: checks DRLNGBALL: bets $0.50thecandle: calls $0.50*** SHOW DOWN ***DRLNGBALL: shows [Kd As] (two pair, Aces and Kings)thecandle: mucks hand DRLNGBALL collected $4.35 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $4.35 | Rake $0 Board [Ac Js Ks 5d 3d]meh. *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Ks Kc]Mike3097: raises $0.25 to $0.50HUMMBABY joins the table at seat #2 MaAn: calls $0.50LuvPoker777: folds thecandle: raises $0.25 to $0.75ValpoJoe: folds justdealbaby: raises $0.25 to $1Betting is cappedLittle Bill: folds smithrad: folds 785n54h4: folds Mike3097: calls $0.50MaAn: calls $0.50thecandle: calls $0.25I get in with KK capped against 1000 callers.*** FLOP *** [Qh 8s 6d]Mike3097: checks MaAn: checks thecandle: bets $0.25justdealbaby: calls $0.25Mike3097: calls $0.25MaAn: calls $0.25Flop looks ok.*** TURN *** [Qh 8s 6d] [Jd]Mike3097: checks MaAn: checks thecandle: bets $0.50justdealbaby: raises $0.50 to $1Mike3097: folds MaAn: folds thecandle: calls $0.50Could be 9/10 or two pair or whatever. Could be AQ too. Pot's way to big to lay down KK.*** RIVER *** [Qh 8s 6d Jd] [Ad]thecandle: checks justdealbaby: bets $0.50thecandle: calls $0.50*** SHOW DOWN ***justdealbaby: shows [Qc Qd] (three of a kind, Queens)thecandle: mucks hand justdealbaby collected $8.10 from Meh.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [As Qs]thecandle: raises $0.25 to $0.50MadRemorse: folds yellowjack: raises $0.25 to $0.75Eastgate: folds SirJason: folds Wiiired: folds bomblade: folds al1945: folds ArmBiscuits: folds thecandle: calls $0.25I raise AQs and get three bet.*** FLOP *** [Td Ac 2h]thecandle: bets $0.25yellowjack: raises $0.25 to $0.50thecandle: calls $0.25Have to call.*** TURN *** [Td Ac 2h] [5s]thecandle: checks yellowjack: bets $0.50thecandle: calls $0.50*** RIVER *** [Td Ac 2h 5s] [7s]thecandle: checks yellowjack: bets $0.50thecandle: calls $0.50*** SHOW DOWN ***yellowjack: shows [Ad Kh] (a pair of Aces)thecandle: mucks hand yellowjack collected $4.85 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $4.85 | Rake $0 Board [Td Ac 2h 5s 7s]Seat 2: ArmBiscuits (big blind) folded before FlopSeat 3: thecandle mucked [As Qs]Meh.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Kd As]Qball40: folds cindy920: calls $0.25thecandle: raises $0.25 to $0.50steveed3: folds Anneke1: folds DRLNGBALL: folds bomblade: folds tazangel777: folds BuddyB13: calls $0.40Matt In UK: folds cindy920: calls $0.25I raise AK from early and get a few callers.*** FLOP *** [Qh 2h Qc]BuddyB13: checks cindy920: checks thecandle: bets $0.25BuddyB13: calls $0.25cindy920: calls $0.25I bet out at the flop.*** TURN *** [Qh 2h Qc] [7d]BuddyB13: checks cindy920: checks thecandle: checks *** RIVER *** [Qh 2h Qc 7d] [Jc]BuddyB13: checks cindy920: bets $0.50thecandle: folds BuddyB13: folds /shrug.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Td Ah]hammerga: calls $0.25Little Bill: folds smithrad: folds 785n54h4: folds Mike3097: folds MaAn: calls $0.25LuvPoker777: folds thecandle: calls $0.25ValpoJoe: calls $0.15justdealbaby: checks *** FLOP *** [9d Kc 6d]ValpoJoe: bets $0.25justdealbaby: calls $0.25hammerga: calls $0.25 and is all-inMaAn: folds thecandle: folds I call with AT on the button, miss the flop and fold.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Ac Tc]justdealbaby: folds hammerga: calls $0.25Little Bill: folds smithrad: folds 785n54h4: folds Mike3097: calls $0.25MaAn: folds LuvPoker777: folds thecandle: calls $0.15ValpoJoe: checksAnother AT hand this time from the SB, and suited. *** FLOP *** [Qs 7d Td]thecandle: checks ValpoJoe: checks hammerga: checks Mike3097: bets $0.25thecandle: calls $0.25ValpoJoe: folds hammerga: calls $0.25I have the odds to call looking to improve.*** TURN *** [Qs 7d Td] [Jh]thecandle: checks hammerga: checks Mike3097: bets $0.50thecandle: calls $0.50hammerga: calls $0.50meh. Maybe a good time to fold, but I likely have all the Ts and some of the Ks and A's.*** RIVER *** [Qs 7d Td Jh] [9c]thecandle: checks hammerga: checks Mike3097: bets $0.50thecandle: folds meh.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Kc Ac]damom: calls $0.25VERYBIGWIL: folds Eshu82: folds FSnow35: calls $0.25backbonz: folds bg1027: calls $0.25785n54h4: folds thecandle: raises $0.25 to $0.503rdEye: folds SlyTech: calls $0.25damom: calls $0.25FSnow35: calls $0.25bg1027: calls $0.25*** FLOP *** [5h 9c 5d]SlyTech: bets $0.25damom: calls $0.25FSnow35: calls $0.25bg1027: calls $0.25thecandle: calls $0.25*** TURN *** [5h 9c 5d] [8d]SlyTech: bets $0.50damom: folds FSnow35: folds bg1027: raises $0.50 to $1thecandle: folds SlyTech: calls $0.50I raise AK, call the flop because I have odds for overcards and fold the turn.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [6h 8s]ValpoJoe: folds justdealbaby: folds hammerga: calls $0.25Little Bill: calls $0.25smithrad: folds 785n54h4: folds Mike3097: calls $0.25MaAn: folds LuvPoker777: calls $0.15thecandle: checks *** FLOP *** [3h 9c 6d]LuvPoker777: checks thecandle: checks hammerga: checks Little Bill: checks Mike3097: checks 68 in the BB, flopped checked around and I improve to an OESD and a pair.*** TURN *** [3h 9c 6d] [7h]LuvPoker777: bets $0.50thecandle: calls $0.50hammerga: calls $0.50Little Bill: folds Mike3097: folds *** RIVER *** [3h 9c 6d 7h] [3c]LuvPoker777: bets $0.50thecandle: folds [/b]Meh.Dealt to thecandle [3d 6d]Anneke1: calls $0.25DRLNGBALL: calls $0.25JLaman: folds tazangel777: folds BuddyB13: folds Qball40: folds cindy920: calls $0.25thecandle: calls $0.15steveed3: checks *** FLOP *** [2d 8h 7h]thecandle: checks steveed3: checks Anneke1: checks DRLNGBALL: checks cindy920: checks *** TURN *** [2d 8h 7h] [Td]thecandle: checks steveed3: checks Anneke1: checks DRLNGBALL: checks cindy920: bets $0.50thecandle: calls $0.50steveed3: folds Anneke1: folds DRLNGBALL: folds *** RIVER *** [2d 8h 7h Td] [4c]I complete with 36s, flop checked around, I improve to a flush draw with gutshot and miss it on the river.meh.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Th Td]mjbpt: calls $0.25XmanB: folds thecandle: calls $0.25worthit2: calls $0.25jwblue92: folds trevian: calls $0.25kremss: folds DubPaw: calls $0.15Postman46: checks I call with TT in early.*** FLOP *** [2h 6s 7s]DubPaw: bets $0.25Postman46: folds mjbpt: folds thecandle: raises $0.25 to $0.50worthit2: folds trevian: folds DubPaw: raises $0.25 to $0.75mjbpt leaves the tablethecandle: calls $0.25I raise my overpair and call the three-bet.*** TURN *** [2h 6s 7s] [9h]DubPaw: bets $0.50thecandle: calls $0.50*** RIVER *** [2h 6s 7s 9h] [5h]DubPaw: bets $0.15 and is all-inthecandle: calls $0.15*** SHOW DOWN ***DubPaw: shows [2c 6c] (two pair, Sixes and Deuces)thecandle: mucks hand DubPaw collected $4.30 from potDubPaw is sitting outDubPaw has returnedI figure it's pointless to fold on the end to antoher .15 especially from a an all in player./shrug.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [7c 7d]Bossmann: calls $0.25VERYBIGWIL: folds Eshu82: calls $0.25Myamekns: calls $0.25tripper789: folds Skaugum: folds 785n54h4: folds thecandle: calls $0.25spongebob69: calls $0.15SlyTech: checks *** FLOP *** [6h 8d 7h]spongebob69: checks SlyTech: checks Bossmann: checks Eshu82: checks Myamekns: checks thecandle: bets $0.25spongebob69: calls $0.25SlyTech: calls $0.25Bossmann: folds Eshu82: calls $0.25Myamekns: folds *** TURN *** [6h 8d 7h] [9d]spongebob69: checks SlyTech: checks Eshu82: bets $0.50thecandle: calls $0.50spongebob69: calls $0.50SlyTech: folds *** RIVER *** [6h 8d 7h 9d] [2c]Bossmann leaves the tablespongebob69: checks Eshu82: bets $0.50thecandle: calls $0.50spongebob69: calls $0.50*** SHOW DOWN ***I flop a set, bet it, turn brings 4 to a straight, I call the turn raise with 10 outs to a FH and call the river bet because the pot's big.Oh the pain.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Qc Qs]prezofbk: calls $0.25digbydawg: folds JulianB: folds notwendy: folds yellowjack: folds thecandle: raises $0.25 to $0.50cupidsdeck: folds ICEMAN1182: calls $0.25prezofbk: calls $0.25*** FLOP *** [Ad 2d Td]ICEMAN1182: bets $0.25prezofbk: folds thecandle: folds Flops like this all day.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Js Qd]JulianB: folds thecandle: calls $0.25kefalo_muni: folds Roggybogey: folds jb_kyfan: calls $0.25twoold4u: calls $0.25PRESTON62: folds bg1027: folds April03: calls $0.15Kattl: checks I call with JQ UTG+1. A little loose, but it wasn't an over agressive table and lots of peopel to the flop most of the time.*** FLOP *** [Ks Th 6c]April03: checks Kattl: checks thecandle: bets $0.25jb_kyfan: folds twoold4u: calls $0.25April03: calls $0.25Kattl: foldsI bet my OESD for value. *** TURN *** [Ks Th 6c] [4d]April03: checks thecandle: checks twoold4u: bets $0.50April03: folds thecandle: calls $0.50Call with 8 outs to the nuts.*** RIVER *** [Ks Th 6c 4d] [2d]And we're folding.Draws lile this all day.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Qd Jd]yellowjack: folds Eastgate: calls $0.25sargomatic: folds devansgsc: calls $0.25bomblade: calls $0.25al1945: folds L.A. VIC: folds ArmBiscuits: calls $0.25thecandle: calls $0.15ooashaui: checks *** FLOP *** [5d 8c 2s]thecandle: checks ooashaui: bets $0.25Eastgate: calls $0.25devansgsc: calls $0.25bomblade: calls $0.25ArmBiscuits: folds thecandle: folds More flops like this than I could fit into a post. I was unable to continue on most flops, and too add to the jow was only able to play 20% of my hands up front including the blinds.A lethal comination of getting cold decked pre-flop and getting in up against hands that dominated me etc.There's more, of course. A lot of pots where I have TT against JJ on an uncoordinated flop, etc.I'm not a big fan of posting a million bad beats, because I don't think it accomplishes much. I'm trying to dig up a hand I played wrong, but am having some trouble.There was a hand where I was calling with an OESD hit and missed, but a flush card hit the river and I bet out and AK called me and took down the pot, but I can't find the HH.Ah well, happens.I think it in the same way I think of a stock market "correction". I knew I couldn't continut to beat any raked game at 10BB an hour so this was long overdue.I'll probably put in another 500 hands today, because the way I deal with losing sessions is to play more hands. Could be another 500 with another 50BB downswing, never know.100BB downswings happen even you're playing great.ResultsStarting Bankroll: $232.09Ending Bankroll: $204.85Playtime: 500 hands.Net: Negative $27BB/100: Negative 10 per 100 baby.

[TheBob 0]

Just thought you might like to know that even though you had a bad session I just had my best ever. Made 90bb in about an hour four tabling. I'm kinda doing the same thing as you as I've built my bankroll from about 85$ to 125 now in the past couple of weeks playing 5 10 cent limit. Thanks again for posting your commentaries etc.

[Smasharoo 0]

One of the toughest things to deal with in Holdem sometimes is that it occasionally take 3 or 4 winners to make up for one really bad losing session.We'll see how many it takes me

[Smasharoo 0]

New session I flop a set of fours, board is 64T 78 rivers a nine to beat out of about $8 :)I may have to drop back down to .05/.10 if this keeps up much longer...

[NormanHaupt 0]

I flop a set, bet it, turn brings 4 to a straight, I call the turn raise with 10 outs to a FH and call the river bet because the pot's big.Oh the pain.

Thats my absolute most hated things, hitting a set and it turns into a stright for someone else.I feel it, my brother, I feel it.

[akishore 0]

just curious, when do you personally move down in limits after downswings?i personally do it when i'm down 100 big bets (so 200xBB is what my bankroll is).e.g. if i'm playing 50c/$1, my starting bankroll would be $300, and if i dropped down to $200, i'd immediately move down to 25c/50c (where my bankroll would now be 400xBB) and build back up to $300, then move back up to 50c/$1.aseem

[NormanHaupt 0]

New session I flop a set of fours, board is 64T 78 rivers a nine to beat out of about $8 :)I may have to drop back down to .05/.10 if this keeps up much longer...

Oh god please don't come to my tables.. lol

[Smasharoo 0]

Continuing the pain...Two huge pots where I flop a set rivered by gutshots, KQ flops three queens, loses to AQDown another $10 :)While we're here, flop top two with AK twice, rivered by sets twice.I'm at...$187 this second.Yay for 100BB downswiongs

[Smasharoo 0]

MY win at showdown for the new session is 10% :)What a day.

[StonedViper 0]

I'm so glad to have read this edition, i thought those things only happened to me...lolKeep up the good work Smash

[Guest]

You mentioned you had trouble finding hands where you "played wrong" and I can think of two possible ones if you'd like to discuss.Hand 1:MP calls, you call on button, SB completes, BB checks.Flop came K63, BB lead out, and you called from the button.BB lead out on turn and river as well and you called down; BB had K3o, what did you have? KQ/KJ?---Hand 2:MP calls, you call in MP2, button calls, SB folds, BB checks.Flop comes 358 two diamonds.BB checks, MP checks, you check, button bets, BB folds, MP calls, you call.Turn came offsuit 4 where you check-called button, river was some overcard where you check-called I think.You turned over 66 while button had 8 and some random card; did you read him for a bluff?

[DeNuts1 0]

I was beginning to doubt the authenticity of your posts what with you NEVER losing...you have regained my confidence. Play through it brother...good luck.

[Smasharoo 0]

You mentioned you had trouble finding hands where you "played wrong" and I can think of two possible ones if you'd like to discuss.Hand 1:MP calls, you call on button, SB completes, BB checks.Flop came K63, BB lead out, and you called from the button.BB lead out on turn and river as well and you called down; BB had K3o, what did you have? KQ/KJ?---Hand 2:MP calls, you call in MP2, button calls, SB folds, BB checks.Flop comes 358 two diamonds.BB checks, MP checks, you check, button bets, BB folds, MP calls, you call.Turn came offsuit 4 where you check-called button, river was some overcard where you check-called I think.You turned over 66 while button had 8 and some random card; did you read him for a bluff?Can you dig up the hand numbers?I probably played them both badly, but missed them looking through 500 hands.I remember the 66 one was a straight flush draw I just called on the end in case I was looking at an unpaired draw.The other one I couldn't tell you offhand.

[Guest]

I wouldn't be able to find them either actually, those were just off the top of my head.

[Smasharoo 0]

I imagine I had a K in the K3 one. It was showed down, so I can probably find it.As an aside, hitting afew flops finnaly and cleaning up the later end of the 100BB downswing.

[akishore 0]

dont know if you saw the post, so i'll post it again.just curious, when do you personally move down in limits after downswings? i personally do it when i'm down 100 big bets (so 200xBB is what my bankroll is). e.g. if i'm playing 50c/$1, my starting bankroll would be $300, and if i dropped down to $200, i'd immediately move down to 25c/50c (where my bankroll would now be 400xBB) and build back up to $300, then move back up to 50c/$1. aseem

[Guest]

If you're searching through HHs, I was BB that hand with K3 so I guess search for "yellowjack showed [k" .

[aneurysm 0]

Smash, you have an audience. I just watched your AA flush hand. Bored enough to spectate... Sad...

[Smasharoo 0]

Still looking for the K3 hand.Here's one with you that was pretty much representative of my day, though:*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [As Qs]thecandle: raises $0.25 to $0.50MadRemorse: folds yellowjack: raises $0.25 to $0.75Eastgate: folds SirJason: folds Wiiired: folds bomblade: folds al1945: folds ArmBiscuits: folds thecandle: calls $0.25*** FLOP *** [Td Ac 2h]thecandle: bets $0.25yellowjack: raises $0.25 to $0.50thecandle: calls $0.25*** TURN *** [Td Ac 2h] [5s]thecandle: checks yellowjack: bets $0.50thecandle: calls $0.50*** RIVER *** [Td Ac 2h 5s] [7s]thecandle: checks yellowjack: bets $0.50thecandle: calls $0.50*** SHOW DOWN ***yellowjack: shows [Ad Kh] (a pair of Aces)thecandle: mucks hand yellowjack collected $4.85 from pot

[Vade 0]

I call with TT in early.*** FLOP *** [2h 6s 7s]DubPaw: bets $0.25Postman46: foldsmjbpt: foldsthecandle: raises $0.25 to $0.50worthit2: foldstrevian: foldsDubPaw: raises $0.25 to $0.75mjbpt leaves the tablethecandle: calls $0.25I raise my overpair and call the three-bet.*** TURN *** [2h 6s 7s] [9h]DubPaw: bets $0.50thecandle: calls $0.50*** RIVER *** [2h 6s 7s 9h] [5h]DubPaw: bets $0.15 and is all-inthecandle: calls $0.15*** SHOW DOWN ***DubPaw: shows [2c 6c] (two pair, Sixes and Deuces)thecandle: mucks handDubPaw collected $4.30 from potDubPaw is sitting outDubPaw has returned

Personally, I think 10-10 is a better than then AKo, and should be raised from any position. It's easier to get away from then AKo, and the guy had 2-6 unsuited in the SB. Granted, there's a chance he'll call a raise, but I doubt it would be common at all.Just saying, you wanted hands that might have been not played the best.Keep up the good work though, you can beat this slump!

[Smasharoo 0]

SO far I have you showing down AK about 90 times.Still can't find the K3 hand, but I remember it.

[Smasharoo 0]

AKo, and the guy had 2-6 unsuited in the SB. Granted, there's a chance he'll call a raise, but I doubt it would be common at all.Well, I don't know about that....Yes riasing that hand would be better.I tend not to raise TT for other reasons, but it certainly increases the fold equity of the BB from 0% to something.

[Smasharoo 0]

Smash, you have an audience. I just watched your AA flush hand. Bored enough to spectate... Sad..First AA in 900 hands.That probably doesn't help the winrate much either.

[NormanHaupt 0]

I have horrible luck with AK, both suited and not.But my luck is bad with AA too so.. lolWhat is your philsophies on sNg's anyway, Smash?

[Smasharoo 0]

What is your philsophies on sNg's anyway, Smash?Fold everything but JJ-AA and AK and AQs untill there are 5 left, then start opening more pots with other cards.Allways open pots at least 5X the BB. That's about it, really.