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[DanielNegreanu]

The following structures could be used for both your home private games or the big tournaments on TV. In fact, I think ALL major tounraments should adopt the following structure:10,000 starting chips25-5050-100100-200100-200 (25)150-300 (50)200-400 (50)300-600 (75)400-800 (100)500-1000(100)600-1200(200)800-1600(200)1000-2000(300)1200-2400(400)1500-3000(500)2000-4000(500)3000-6000(1000)4000-8000(1000)5000-10000(1000)6000-12000(2000)8000-16000(2000)10000-20000(3000) For the major events this structure should be used with 90 minute levels. For fun little home games you can up the blinds every 10 hands, 10 minutes, or every round (depending on # of players). It is a fun way to also learn how to play the big events.

[mark33f]

What values and #s should you start with?? Like how many: $25, $50, $100, $1000, $5000 or whatever

[DanielNegreanu]

Good question, and it's all preference really but this works fine:6 1000 chips5 500 chips12 100 chips12 25 chips Anything like that would work. I would suggest less chips rather than more so you avoid the mess.

[Dane]

We use 1000 in startchips1 x 5003 x 1005 x 255 x 105 x 5Blinds5/1010/2015/3020/40Chiprace25/5050/10075/150100/200150/300Chiprace200/400300/600400/800500/1000600/1200800/16001000/20001500/30002000/4000Works fine, on a good night there are 36(ish) playing and we spend about 4-5 hours finding a winner, levels are 15 minutes and 15 minute breaks at each chiprace and sometimes we take a break later in the tournament.

[TylerMayes]

Some friends and I are planning a 2 day event. And advice/thoughts would be great from anyone...esp Daniel as he has a bit of expeirence as to what a good tournament is.30 players17 hours (12 first day 5 second) with the final table being on the second day.10,000 starting chips for $50.00 with 1 rebuy for first 2-3 hours and 1 add on. So we hve more than average chips available...My main concern is that the blinds are still too much....starting the second day we estimate 750,000 in chips to be in play...with a BB of 10,000 avg stack has 7.5 BB is this typical or just plain wrong?I have a few questtions on modifications based on this info.With fewer players over a long time we have the antes a little lower. We reach a 200 ante when we get to the 1500-3000 level.(here is the structure) We plan to enter the final table with blinds of:Day 2 Sunday *Sorry for the images... getting thewhite space right with forums is annoying. All those tags and nothing for preformatted text :(Cheers,Tyler

[augmented]

heres how i do it:10k in starting chips8 25 chips8 100 chips4 500 chips2 1000 chips1 5000 chipone 5 color chip set of 400 chips is enough to employ these numbers for like, 20 people if you give some people only big denominations.blinds are pretty much what DN suggested.

[srharris22]

your math is wrong, average stack on 2nd day of about 750,000 with 10k in bb makes the average stack at 75x the bb.so you are more than fine

[JayPaav]

two things.first.TylerMayes a two-day 30 person tournament is a little over the top. 30 person tourney with 10K in starting chips should at the most take 6 hours. At the absolute most! it will probably be done in less -somwhere around 4-5 hours.second.as daniel said, to avoid mess start your tournaments with fewer chips.split as follows. 1 x 5k chip2 x 1k chip5 x 500 chip5 x 100 chipno need to color-up.employ a blind structure as follows (ante in brackets)100-200200-400300-600400-800500-1000 (100)600-1200 (200)800-1600 (300)1000-2000 (400)1500-3000 (500)2000-4000 (500)2500-5000 (500)3000-6000 (500)5000-10000 (1000)8000-16000 (1000)10000-20000 (1000)15000-30000 (1000)

[Socrates]

TylerMayes said:

Some friends and I are planning a 2 day event. And advice/thoughts would be great from anyone...esp Daniel as he has a bit of expeirence as to what a good tournament is.30 players17 hours (12 first day 5 second) with the final table being on the second day.10,000 starting chips for $50.00 with 1 rebuy for first 2-3 hours and 1 add on. So we hve more than average chips available...My main concern is that the blinds are still too much....starting the second day we estimate 750,000 in chips to be in play...with a BB of 10,000 avg stack has 7.5 BB is this typical or just plain wrong?I have a few questtions on modifications based on this info.With fewer players over a long time we have the antes a little lower. We reach a 200 ante when we get to the 1500-3000 level.(here is the structure) We plan to enter the final table with blinds of:Day 2 Sunday *Sorry for the images... getting thewhite space right with forums is annoying. All those tags and nothing for preformatted text :(Cheers,Tyler

Suggestion, upi the byu-in. That's a whole lot of time for a minimal payout. 1st place is barely getting $1K.

[DougieG]

Some friends and I held a 21 person tournament using the suggested blinds and chip amounts, with a 40 minute blind structure. It took us 8 HOURS to finish the madness. Now fortunately i won the tourney but why did it take so long? Is this just the tail of the normal curve for length of a tournament this size or do we need to make shorter levels? Ideally it'd go about 6 hours.ThanksDoug

[Mr Monkey]

try 25 or 30 minute levels

[UVaScott]

thanks

[UVaScott]

thanks

[FullDeck]

if the levels were like that I'd win every tournament

[MiamiMackk]

Just wanted to say thank you . I know this thread is old but. Since i ran across this tournament structure a few weeks ago. I have been using it for my home games and its turned out great. :)Thanks again

[eYank]

MiamiMackk said:

Just wanted to say thank you . I know this thread is old but. Since i ran across this tournament structure a few weeks ago. I have been using it for my home games and its turned out great. :)Thanks again

same with memy friends and i just changed our old structure to this and i like this one much better

[JayPaav]

using my structure or daniels , mine is better!

[Fluffdog87]

these are very similar to the structure that I use, so they look good. lol

[Matty D]

I like the 10K starting chips idea... we usually start with 1500Use these blinds:10 20 20 40 30 60 -----break-----50 100 75 150 100 200 -----break-----150 300 200 400 300 600 -----break-----400 800 500 1000 600 1200-----break----- 800 16001000 2000 1200 2400We don't use 5/10 or 15/30 to avoid needing '5' chips...Seems to work...