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[SLEEPYCHIEF]

10$ sit and go, on the internet3 left i'm 2nd in chips the following hand arisesI have KJ in SB, I limp after Button folds, blinds are 120/240 me 5500Villan 3500He makes it 750 to go. My read is tight player, but hey it's 3 hnded with big blinds. I call with KJ off. BAd play???Flop is K 8 4 rainbow. I check knowing i"m calling an all in bet, bad play???He moves in, I call he shows AK. I lose. Should I have foldled before the flop, cuz obvious with that flop I can't fold the way it played out.

[krup24]

Fold Preflop every time hereSince you didn't I go broke on the flop as well

[PimpRock]

SLEEPYCHIEF said:

10$ sit and go, on the internet3 left i'm 2nd in chips the following hand arisesI have KJ in SB, I limp after Button folds, blinds are 120/240 me 5500Villan 3500He makes it 750 to go. My read is tight player, but hey it's 3 hnded with big blinds. I call with KJ off. BAd play???Flop is K 8 4 rainbow. I check knowing i"m calling an all in bet, bad play???He moves in, I call he shows AK. I lose. Should I have foldled before the flop, cuz obvious with that flop I can't fold the way it played out.

I dont like this statement... Whats wrong with putting a bet out and gaining some more information? I am not saying I would have folded but check calling is pretty bad imho.

[Chaserjim]

Try not to think of TP to be godly. Your kicker could have been beat by AK KQ .. your actually up against alot of hands that potentially beat you there .. Plus you still have alot of chips compared to the blinds . I would have dropped this one after he pushed all in .

[pokerplayer24]

Raise preflop and this never happens.

[AceyDeucy]

You should have raised preflop. You hand is plenty strong enough for a raise in that position. That will help define the hand as the action heats up.Secondly, beware top pair with a big kicker. That is normally the SMALLEST hand people will put all their chips in with. This means that, as a rule, calling an all-in with nothing more top pair generally has you hoping for a chop at best.

[Pokerdad2222]

AceyDeucy said:

You should have raised preflop. You hand is plenty strong enough for a raise in that position. That will help define the hand as the action heats up.Secondly, beware top pair with a big kicker. That is normally the SMALLEST hand people will put all their chips in with. This means that, as a rule, calling an all-in with nothing more top pair generally has you hoping for a chop at best.

I agree you have to raise preflop here 3 handed. JK is pretty strong 3 handed. You do have to know that top pair is not always good but when playing three handed and then heads up between the blinds, top pair with J kicker isnt too bad. I am not justifying this hand I am just saying that 3 handed and headsup playing kj scared on this boared is usually pretty weak I think.

[Wingmaster05]

Raise a tighty's blind for goodness sakes! When he raises you you can fold much easier than in other situations.

[revhq2646]

pokerplayer24 said:

Raise preflop and this never happens.

I was going to disagree and say you'd end up all in anyway, but I think you are right. If this was raised to $500 preflop it either gets raised by the BB or smooth called. If he raises it is time to let it go, if he smooth calls our hero would put another $500-$1,000 out there on the flop. Again the villian either smooth calls or raises it up. We obviously release a raise, and a call to that flop, late in the tourney make the alarm bells start screaming. From here it is a Check fold down to the river unless it falls J, J and we have saved $2000.

[Merby]

Without a read on the opponent, I end up doubling him up. Why?Playing three-handed, KJ is a raising hand. If there's a lot of blind stealing going on, I'm actually pushing over the top pre-flop (any smaller raise is pointless -- even if he calles a min raise here, he's pot-committed). Nevertheless: 1) based on the flop (top pair, J kicker), 2)based on the fact that it's 3-handed pre-flop and heads-up on the flop, 3) and based on the size of the pot (1500) versus the BB's remaining stack (2750);all the remaining money will go in on the flop.If I have a read on BB's playing style... things may have transpired differently......Nevertheless, the majority of the time, he doubles up through me.Cheers,Merby

[TJ_Eckleburg]

Sit and go's suck...Don't post results...Lather, rinse, repeat.

[Merby]

Oops! I just noticed that you called first pre-flop, then called his raise. If you accidently call pre-flop (instead of raising out of the SB), then the hand plays out as in my above post.The correct play is to raise out of the SB-- you'll usually take down the BB pre-flop, and if he plays back at you, it's decision time (based on your table image and your read of your opponent). I may still end up calling (depending on my read of the BB), but I am much more likely to fold here.Cheers,Merby

[Limit Player]

the blinds were only 120/240 down to 3 handed? So if you're second, you must have 3000-4000 chips with 1st in chips being close to you, and then a short stack.That's a lot of chips to call off with KJ.Raise pre-flop. Fold if he pushes back. KJ isn't a favorite against much more than a bluff all-in move at that point. Or Ace-crap. And I'm not busting on a coin flop with a lot of BB left. Bad play.