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[lvpro]

RonBurgundy, on Wednesday, September 5th, 2007, 12:34 PM, said:

as good or better than ever. andre is still lyrically top 5 in my book and their sound still sounds fresh, from southernplayalistic, atliens, stankonia, hell even a couple songs off idlewild are good.most influential rap group of the past 15 years. yea i said it.

Hmmmm. I don't know... more influential than Wu-Tang? Wu-Tang is everywhere. I do love OutKast though.-----------I've listened to Graduation a couple of times now, and I just don't know how much I like it. There are some really good tracks ("Champion," the singles, and some others), but there are some really, really bad songs, including the song with Mos Def called "Drunk and Hot Girls" which is among the worst hip-hop songs I've heard recently.On a sidenote, I'm completely obsessed with Jamie T right now. Panic Prevention is such a great album. I'm sad that I wasn't in to him a month earlier, I could have seen him here.Also really enjoying Emerald City by John Vanderslice lately.

[Jadaki]

lvpro, on Thursday, September 6th, 2007, 2:49 PM, said:

Hmmmm. I don't know... more influential than Wu-Tang? Wu-Tang is everywhere. I do love OutKast though.

Outkast I think is the best rap group ever. They have constantly reinvented and changed their sound on nearly every album and manage to keep relevant through all of it. A lot of artist that do that fall off horribly. Wu-Tang is good at what they do, but they are so big and diverse that in a way the weaker members count against them.I agree on Graduation, a few really good tracks surrounded by a lot of trash. Pretty much a letdown from his previous efforts.

[Dirtydutch]

I'm the man of the hour, watching girls taking a shower.I ran Rap. Tell M.C.s to watch their back.

[lvpro]

Jadaki, on Thursday, September 6th, 2007, 12:55 PM, said:

Outkast I think is the best rap group ever. They have constantly reinvented and changed their sound on nearly every album and manage to keep relevant through all of it. A lot of artist that do that fall off horribly. Wu-Tang is good at what they do, but they are so big and diverse that in a way the weaker members count against them.I agree on Graduation, a few really good tracks surrounded by a lot of trash. Pretty much a letdown from his previous efforts.

As much as I love OutKast, I can't agree that they're the best ever. Run DMC beats them. The Beasties were probably more influential, though I'm more of an OutKast fan than a Beasties fan. Boogie Down Productions. Eric B & Rakim, if you count them as a group, and I'm not sure if I do, since it was just one MC and one DJ. I think The Roots are better, while not as popular or commercially successful. And as mentioned before, I'd give the nod to Wu-Tang, personally. Obviously, this is all pretty subjective, and there's clearly no right or wrong answer.

[Jadaki]

lvpro, on Friday, September 7th, 2007, 11:46 AM, said:

As much as I love OutKast, I can't agree that they're the best ever. Run DMC beats them. The Beasties were probably more influential, though I'm more of an OutKast fan than a Beasties fan. Boogie Down Productions. Eric B & Rakim, if you count them as a group, and I'm not sure if I do, since it was just one MC and one DJ. I think The Roots are better, while not as popular or commercially successful. And as mentioned before, I'd give the nod to Wu-Tang, personally. Obviously, this is all pretty subjective, and there's clearly no right or wrong answer.

I can see arguments for Run DMC being the pioneers they were, but they never really reinvented their own music the way OuKast does which is why I'd give them the nod over Run-DMC. The Beasties... meh, I just never saw what was so big about them. As much hip-hop as I listened to growing up the Beasties just never really got me into what they were doing and I thought a lot of what they did musically was to make up for lyrical skill. Eric B and Rakim I wouldn't count because they really don't have as much material out as the others and the DJ/Rapper combo like you said seems a little weak for a "group" though everyone over the last 20 years has bitten some part of Rakim's style. The Roots are good, I just don't like them nearly as much as OutKast though I give them credit for being a very creative group. Outkast is one of the very few groups/artist I would by a CD from off name recognition alone having hot heard anything on it.I never thought about what my top ten hip hop groups would be before now, now I want to go through my cd collection when I move this weekend and figure it out. Who would be on yours?

[lvpro]

Jadaki, on Friday, September 7th, 2007, 9:56 AM, said:

I can see arguments for Run DMC being the pioneers they were, but they never really reinvented their own music the way OuKast does which is why I'd give them the nod over Run-DMC. The Beasties... meh, I just never saw what was so big about them. As much hip-hop as I listened to growing up the Beasties just never really got me into what they were doing and I thought a lot of what they did musically was to make up for lyrical skill. Eric B and Rakim I wouldn't count because they really don't have as much material out as the others and the DJ/Rapper combo like you said seems a little weak for a "group" though everyone over the last 20 years has bitten some part of Rakim's style. The Roots are good, I just don't like them nearly as much as OutKast though I give them credit for being a very creative group. Outkast is one of the very few groups/artist I would by a CD from off name recognition alone having hot heard anything on it.I never thought about what my top ten hip hop groups would be before now, now I want to go through my cd collection when I move this weekend and figure it out. Who would be on yours?

My personal top 10 would look something like:1. Run DMC2. Jurassic 53. Wu-Tang Clan4. Black Star5. The Roots6. OutKast7. Boogie Down Productions8. Dilated Peoples9. A Tribe Called Quest10. The PharcydeThat's just off the top of my head, so I could be forgetting someone. Honorable mentions go to 1 DJ/1 MC teams like Madvillain, Dangerdoom, Eric B & Rakim, and Reflection Eternal

[Jadaki]

lvpro, on Friday, September 7th, 2007, 12:05 PM, said:

10. The Pharcyde

I totally would have left them off the list on accident if I made one now, I need to go back and listen to their stuff.

[Shimmering Wang]

Dirtydutch, on Wednesday, September 5th, 2007, 1:11 AM, said:

Has anyone else revisited Hell Hath No Fury since last winter? I just pull it back out, and it's even better than I recalled. Sick, sick album.

Yeah, I listen to it all the time. It's been in constant rotation since my brother emailed me, called me, and IMed me about 30 times the day after he first heard it because he was so impressed.

Dirtydutch, on Wednesday, September 5th, 2007, 2:37 AM, said:

Stankonia. God, I love the 'Kast. How does the indie crowd feel about Outkast?

I've always loved them, but I liked them waaaaay before I had anything resembling a semi-refined taste in music. I think Outkast is kinda like Tom Petty: Everybody likes them, no matter what. Even cynical bastards like Outkast.On a separate note, I'm listening to the new Animal Collective for the first time. I hope it's good. The lead track, "Peacebone," is typically strange.Wang

[7s7c]

Shimmering Wang, on Friday, September 7th, 2007, 10:49 AM, said:

Yeah, I listen to it all the time. It's been in constant rotation since my brother emailed me, called me, and IMed me about 30 times the day after he first heard it because he was so impressed. I've always loved them, but I liked them waaaaay before I had anything resembling a semi-refined taste in music. I think Outkast is kinda like Tom Petty: Everybody likes them, no matter what. Even cynical bastards like Outkast.On a separate note, I'm listening to the new Animal Collective for the first time. I hope it's good. The lead track, "Peacebone," is typically strange.Wang

"I'm running out of steam, from running down a dream, but I'm awfully sure that I am no Tom Petty"~Graham Smith

[Shimmering Wang]

BigDMcGee, on Tuesday, September 4th, 2007, 6:08 PM, said:

with an assist from Dutch, I'm listening to Kool Keith/Dr. Octogon.. .God damn, I love this album.. I lost it, and had to re aquire it online... man I love this.

Such a sweet album. What else have I been listening to?Still a whole lot of Caribou. Wish I'd discovered him earlier.I really like the Justice album that came out earlier this year. I decided I simply don't like M.I.A. all that much. I put on "Twin Cinema" by the New Pornographers for the first time in a while the other day. Still very awesome.For some reason I've had a real Wolf Parade urge the last few weeks.Probably other stuff I'm forgetting.Wang

[Dirtydutch]

Shimmering Wang, on Friday, September 7th, 2007, 10:55 AM, said:

Such a sweet album. What else have I been listening to?Still a whole lot of Caribou. Wish I'd discovered him earlier.I really like the Justice album that came out earlier this year. I decided I simply don't like M.I.A. all that much. I put on "Twin Cinema" by the New Pornographers for the first time in a while the other day. Still very awesome.For some reason I've had a real Wolf Parade urge the last few weeks.Probably other stuff I'm forgetting.Wang

God, this thread is finally on fire, again.I didn't love Caribou, but I do remember really liking that Justice album. A friend of mine turned me on to Soko. I don't really dig her music like most everyone else, but she's really weird and adorable.

[Dirtydutch]

lvpro, on Friday, September 7th, 2007, 9:05 AM, said:

My personal top 10 would look something like:1. Run DMC2. Jurassic 53. Wu-Tang Clan4. Black Star5. The Roots6. OutKast7. Boogie Down Productions8. Dilated Peoples9. A Tribe Called Quest10. The PharcydeThat's just off the top of my head, so I could be forgetting someone. Honorable mentions go to 1 DJ/1 MC teams like Madvillain, Dangerdoom, Eric B & Rakim, and Reflection Eternal

I'd never even heard of Dilated Peoples before. Apparently they're incredible.

[bigkg]

lvpro, on Friday, September 7th, 2007, 12:05 PM, said:

My personal top 10 would look something like:1. Run DMC2. Jurassic 53. Wu-Tang Clan4. Black Star5. The Roots6. OutKast7. Boogie Down Productions8. Dilated Peoples9. A Tribe Called Quest10. The PharcydeThat's just off the top of my head, so I could be forgetting someone. Honorable mentions go to 1 DJ/1 MC teams like Madvillain, Dangerdoom, Eric B & Rakim, and Reflection Eternal

De La Soul?

[Dirtydutch]

bigkg, on Sunday, September 9th, 2007, 8:16 AM, said:

De La Soul?

Yeah, I couldn't believe J-5 made the list, and De La Soul didn't.

[Jadaki]

bigkg, on Sunday, September 9th, 2007, 11:16 AM, said:

De La Soul?

I've never liked them, I don't think they crack my top 20. Three feet high and rising always seemed way overrated to me.

[lvpro]

bigkg, on Sunday, September 9th, 2007, 9:16 AM, said:

De La Soul?

Honorable mention, for sure. I did love The Grind Date, and obviously 3 Feet High and Rising.

Dirtydutch, on Sunday, September 9th, 2007, 3:37 PM, said:

Yeah, I couldn't believe J-5 made the list, and De La Soul didn't.

Yeah, it's obviously a 'personal favorites' list, and not an objective 'best of' list. J5 has been one of my favorite groups forever, though I've liked each new album less than the previous. Quality Control is one of my all-time favorite summer records.

[Dirtydutch]

lvpro, on Sunday, September 9th, 2007, 9:30 PM, said:

Honorable mention, for sure. I did love The Grind Date, and obviously 3 Feet High and Rising.Yeah, it's obviously a 'personal favorites' list, and not an objective 'best of' list. J5 has been one of my favorite groups forever, though I've liked each new album less than the previous. Quality Control is one of my all-time favorite summer records.

Last summer, when I was first really getting into hip-hop, I was spinning Feedback relentlessly, but I got really, really sick of it and haven't put it on in probably a year. I didn't really get that into the other alums, but I liked QC a lot.

[Shimmering Wang]

I've been listening to the new Animal Collective the last few days.If you like Animal Collective at all, I insist you download Strawberry Jam. Wang

[bigkg]

lvpro, on Friday, September 7th, 2007, 12:05 PM, said:

My personal top 10 would look something like:1. Run DMC2. Jurassic 53. Wu-Tang Clan4. Black Star5. The Roots6. OutKast7. Boogie Down Productions8. Dilated Peoples9. A Tribe Called Quest10. The PharcydeThat's just off the top of my head, so I could be forgetting someone. Honorable mentions go to 1 DJ/1 MC teams like Madvillain, Dangerdoom, Eric B & Rakim, and Reflection Eternal

also, Public Enemy?

[RonBurgundy]

Shimmering Wang, on Monday, September 10th, 2007, 12:37 PM, said:

I've been listening to the new Animal Collective the last few days.If you like Animal Collective at all, I insist you download Strawberry Jam. Wang

going to see them in 2 weeks. sick.