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#21 Actuary

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Posted 06 January 2006 - 02:38 PM

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And Actuary, you need to learn respect. I could've easily came on here and acted my age and threw hissy fits and so on. You mentioned you were a bitter old man, and you acted much younger than i did. Not everyone walks around all day contemplating on what their next topic on FCP should be. Take your 4k posts, most of which were complete trash and go outside.
you need to have a sense of humourand thicker skinand my psots are not trashhave you read them?they are jewels.

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Posted 06 January 2006 - 02:42 PM

I could waste my time quoting some of your posts as garbage. But, no thanks.I have a sense of humor, annd I can take a joke. I can't take Almighty Posters with a high post count thinking it means something, and acting uppity. Join date and post count doesn't matter. Get off your high horse.

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Posted 06 January 2006 - 02:46 PM

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I could waste my time quoting some of your posts as garbage. But, no thanks.I have a sense of humor, annd I can take a joke. I can't take Almighty Posters with a high post count thinking it means something, and acting uppity. Join date and post count doesn't matter. Get off your high horse.
why do you think I think a high post count matters?You seem to be envious.Post count means nothing to me, except, I got times on my hands and I like to get help and give it (albeit, I'm pretty new to poker)I post on no other forums on the net anywhere...so it's pretty concentrated.Sure, you'll find some garbage, but over all I try to help others.

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Posted 06 January 2006 - 02:51 PM

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I could waste my time quoting some of your posts as garbage. But, no thanks.I have a sense of humor, annd I can take a joke. I can't take Almighty Posters with a high post count thinking it means something, and acting uppity. Join date and post count doesn't matter. Get off your high horse.
you should reall really REALLY not be offended that easily. this is not the general forum, nearly nothing said here is meant to insult anyone. but some points are made in a humorous way. thatīs it.
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Posted 06 January 2006 - 03:00 PM

i make more trash post than actuary does and yet he has a higher total post count than i dodo u c y?

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Posted 06 January 2006 - 03:02 PM

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i make more trash post than actuary does and yet he has a higher total post count than i dodo u c y?
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Posted 06 January 2006 - 06:40 PM

Die thread, die!I'm not easily offended, it just seems inappropriate in giving me advice and how good of a player I am simply because I asked one question about a bankroll. I just said I refused to get in a pissing contest, and my life doesn't revolve around an internet forum.

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Posted 06 January 2006 - 06:53 PM

You start a post by saying "I don't want 8/10 callers all the way to the river". That means one of two things:1) you don't know shit about poker2) you don't like moneyEither way it's unlikely you're going to get good advice.

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Posted 06 January 2006 - 07:12 PM

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Die thread, die!I'm not easily offended, it just seems inappropriate in giving me advice and how good of a player I am simply because I asked one question about a bankroll. I just said I refused to get in a censored contest, and my life doesn't revolve around an internet forum.
I know you are going to take this the wrong way but if you move to 5/10 you are going to get beat and badly then you are going to lose about 2k then you are going to be sitting in your bedroom or den or where ever your computer wondering "What just happened?". And if you don't decide to reload you will be ahead of the gameIf you want to play poker and get people to fold buy a video game I recommend Stacked. Maybe I am wrong and you are a great poker player. In which case I think you should have 5kish to play with for 5/10 and 2300ish to 3/6

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Posted 06 January 2006 - 07:15 PM

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capthowdy981 said:

And Actuary, you need to learn respect. I could've easily came on here and acted my age and threw hissy fits and so on. You mentioned you were a bitter old man, and you acted much younger than i did. Not everyone walks around all day contemplating on what their next topic on FCP should be. Take your 4k posts, most of which were complete trash and go outside.
you need to have a sense of humourand thicker skinand my psots are not trashhave you read them?they are jewels.
you would've completely redeemed yourself (IMO) if this was a haiku, or whatever that 5-line version of a haiku is.due to poor syallable structure, you are only 60% there.feel free to send me various haikus in attempts to make up that difference.

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Posted 06 January 2006 - 07:23 PM

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capthowdy981 said:

Die thread, die!I'm not easily offended, it just seems inappropriate in giving me advice and how good of a player I am simply because I asked one question about a bankroll. I just said I refused to get in a censored contest, and my life doesn't revolve around an internet forum.
I know you are going to take this the wrong way but if you move to 5/10 you are going to get beat and badly then you are going to lose about 2k then you are going to be sitting in your bedroom or den or where ever your computer wondering "What just happened?". And if you don't decide to reload you will be ahead of the gameIf you want to play poker and get people to fold buy a video game I recommend Stacked. Maybe I am wrong and you are a great poker player. In which case I think you should have 5kish to play with for 5/10 and 2300ish to 3/6
lol, i'm not taking anything the wrong way here. However I do have 2 questions.A. How does that post make me a bad player?B. Have you played 5/10 consistantly to determine for yourself what the calibre of play there is?It's just that everyone here is a pro. Sorry if you busted and sat in your den wondering what happened, but why does that mean I have to?One simple answer of 5k would suffice. Instead everyone wanted to know what my favorite color was, if i had a cousin who was named Stewart, and so on. I have never had a bankroll for multitabling 5/10 limit, or any limit for that matter and was curious if my guess of 4000 was close to those that have. I have no idea on why my previous playing came into play, or even why I chose 5/10 limit. None of that has to do with how much of a bankroll it costs to multitable 5/10?

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Posted 06 January 2006 - 07:28 PM

And about the folding issue, i was steaming at the time. I realize i like callers. Lets let go of the folding/calling issue altogether. Sometimes the game turns into "Bingo" where everyone calls everything all the way, and at the end of 7 cards lets see who hit what. And that is frustrating if your best hand doesn't hold up.

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Posted 06 January 2006 - 07:54 PM

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And about the folding issue, i was steaming at the time. I realize i like callers. Lets let go of the folding/calling issue altogether. Sometimes the game turns into "Bingo" where everyone calls everything all the way, and at the end of 7 cards lets see who hit what. And that is frustrating if your best hand doesn't hold up.
I don't have many posts, but I think my opinion goes a little ways here. Not too far, mind you, but a little ways.That being said, your very unlongrun view of poker is mildly disconcerting. The line I bolded is something I hear everytime I play with bad players at the casino, up to 10/20. It shows they have a FUNDAMENTAL misunderstanding of the way the game works, and the principles of poker equity.I'm not trying to rag on you (Me = good cop), but if you bring that garbage here, you're going to get flamed and corrected. Most lowlimit players here heard the same shit you're hearing now, and they got just as pissed, and they defended themselves and they make excuses and on and on. To my knowledge, all of the posters that stuck around to learn the game have become winning players that now, in turn, get to lecture people who seem to have fundamental misunderstandings about the way the game works. I play 5/10 on party poker, and I generally try and keep a 300ish bankroll. The biggest downswing at 5/10 I've ever faded was about 150 bets in the course of a week, and I can honestly say I played serenely throughout. I'd say 300BB is the minimum (3k). You can survive with less, but your RiskOfRuin (ROR) will be a few deltas/gammas/omegas (whatever) away from 0%.You should stick around, post a few hands (especially the small-limit hands where 8 people called tot he river), join the fun.WangPS- I'd appreciate it if you didn't insult Actuary anymore. He's helped countless people better themselves as poker players. Daddy's putting his foot down. Cheers.

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Posted 06 January 2006 - 08:00 PM

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And about the folding issue, i was steaming at the time. I realize i like callers. Lets let go of the folding/calling issue altogether. Sometimes the game turns into "Bingo" where everyone calls everything all the way, and at the end of 7 cards lets see who hit what. And that is frustrating if your best hand doesn't hold up.
The game is NEVER "Bingo." If you want to be taken seriously on this forum don't use words like that. It makes you sound like a fish.
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Posted 06 January 2006 - 08:05 PM

Sir, thanks for handling it in a mature manner. But please refocus on the idea that at the time I was pissed. Now I'm back to the good ole me (lucky you guys) and realize it was stupid to say. I've repeated this 3 times now, I shouldn't of said it, and it was purely spure of the moment.I like callers! It's just frusatrating sometimes, and that sometimes was the time of the OP.I do not get why you guys assume I'm inexperienced because I posted when i was steamed? So please top commenting on my view of poker, my turn ons and dislikes, etc. For the last time:I take back the line I said about not wanting callers.I understand that the higher I go, there will NOT be less variance, there will just be less POSITIVE variance. Therefore I understand the concept completely. I wonder if editing it will do any good?

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Posted 06 January 2006 - 08:09 PM

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Sir, thanks for handling it in a mature manner. But please refocus on the idea that at the time I was censored. Now I'm back to the good ole me (lucky you guys) and realize it was stupid to say. I've repeated this 3 times now, I shouldn't of said it, and it was purely spure of the moment.I like callers! It's just frusatrating sometimes, and that sometimes was the time of the OP.I do not get why you guys assume I'm inexperienced because I posted when i was steamed? So please top commenting on my view of poker, my turn ons and dislikes, etc. For the last time:I take back the line I said about not wanting callers.I understand that the higher I go, there will NOT be less variance, there will just be less POSITIVE variance. Therefore I understand the concept completely. I wonder if editing it will do any good?
Don't call me sir; I'm probably your age. And my handle is Shimmering Wang.Also, I don't think I believe you. People who REALLY REALLY understand don't react to bad beats by bitching about loose juicy games. I didn't say you were inexperienced. I just suggested there was probably a lot you could learn. I don't care if you do, to be honest. And if you're looking for a place where you won't be criticized for every single mistake you make, go somewhere else. Like, say, a relationship with a girl whose dad hit her and is scared to death of men. If you don't LIKE it when people aggressively attack- and require you to defend- your approach to the game, you're in the wrong spot. That's the whole point: you're constantly training for the marathon.Wang

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Posted 06 January 2006 - 08:13 PM

accidently edited :oops:

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Posted 06 January 2006 - 08:14 PM

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And about the folding issue, i was steaming at the time. I realize i like callers. Lets let go of the folding/calling issue altogether. Sometimes the game turns into "Bingo" where everyone calls everything all the way, and at the end of 7 cards lets see who hit what. And that is frustrating if your best hand doesn't hold up.
The game is NEVER "Bingo." If you want to be taken seriously on this forum don't use words like that. It makes you sound like a fish.
Besides, you guys don't take fish seriously? :club:

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Posted 06 January 2006 - 08:20 PM

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TheCinciKid said:

capthowdy981 said:

And about the folding issue, i was steaming at the time. I realize i like callers. Lets let go of the folding/calling issue altogether. Sometimes the game turns into "Bingo" where everyone calls everything all the way, and at the end of 7 cards lets see who hit what. And that is frustrating if your best hand doesn't hold up.
The game is NEVER "Bingo." If you want to be taken seriously on this forum don't use words like that. It makes you sound like a fish.
It certaintly does. It's when you're playing with poker players far less experienced than you, you are either going to get up, or show them the best hand. Now when everyone (10 out of 10 players) are seeing every card until the showdown, it becomes who hits what. Skillful plays are almost thrown out of the equation. You either have the best hand at the end of 7 cards, or you don't. It isn't a matter if you were ahead or you had the deck crippled.
I'm sorry to have to be a jerk and put it this way, but the bottom line is that you're very very wrong. You've consistently proven in this thread that you have no understanding of the fundamental concepts of poker. I will say this much, even if the game was showdown poker and everybody else played every hand to the river, the game could be beaten over the long run by only playing good hands and knowing when to fold. The variance would be large, but it would be a skillful game, not a game of bingo. Beyond that, I have neither the time nor the inclination to try to explan these concepts any further. I highly suggest you pick up some poker books, maybe they can teach you. I'd reccomend Small Stakes Hold'em and maybe Theory of Poker.
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Posted 06 January 2006 - 08:22 PM

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Also, I don't think I believe you. People who REALLY REALLY understand don't react to bad beats by bitching about loose juicy games. I didn't say you were inexperienced. I just suggested there was probably a lot you could learn. I don't care if you do, to be honest.
Everyone complains about bad beats. And the hardest part was the game was juicy, but for time constraints I could not rebuy. So walking away from a juicy game a loser, on terms you cannot control.. i was a little sore. Besides, who is to say my father put a beat on me and then died? :wink: You don't really know if I'm only pissed because of a beat or something else. Besides, text is hard to interperate over the internet. It's not like a face to face convo.

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And if you're looking for a place where you won't be criticized for every single mistake you make, go somewhere else. Like, say, a relationship with a girl whose dad hit her and is scared to death of men. If you don't LIKE it when people aggressively attack- and require you to defend- your approach to the game, you're in the wrong spot. That's the whole point: you're constantly training for the marathon.Wang
And the thing is, I said it. I caught it, I took it back and repeated it 3 times, yet people still seem to pull certain lines out of context and then criticize it. I like callers. I typed one mistake and repeatedly contradicted myself (the sentence right after for baby jesus' sake!). I ranted on the side when all I really wanted to know was how big of a bankroll for multitabling. I didn't ask to see if I could survive at a certain level. My past shouldn't even be considered, nor my emotional state, or why I will or will not succeed in poker.




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