problems with calling stations

[joball33 0]

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cxPreflop: Hero is MP2 with A:diamond:, J:heart:. 1 fold, UTG+1 calls.Flop: (5.50 SB) 9:heart:, 2:diamond:, J:spade: (2 players)UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 calls.Turn: (3.75 BB) 3:spade: (2 players)UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 calls.River: (5.75 BB) 7:spade: (2 players)UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 calls.Final Pot: 7.75 BBStandard I assume. My question is though, how do you deal with calling stations? I find myself spewing money to them all the time because I am met with no aggression. For example (this is hypothetical)I have JJ in the CO. One limper in front of me, I raise and the BB and limper call. Flop comes Q T 5 rainbow. Checked to me, I bet and am called by the original limper. Turn blank. Limper checks, I bet again, called. River blank. Same line as turn. He shows AQ.I find myself with this problem quite frequently. Should I slow down after I'm called? I just get lost when I'm called down the whole way only to find out I've been behind since the flop. If I saw some type of aggression, I would at least know where I'm at in the hand. As these types of hands happen though, I find myself become gunshy when I am called down, many times checking when I should be betting. Should I just keep firing away like I do until I am met with resistance? I have the hardest time with these type of players, because I never have any clue where I am.EDIT: In the original hand UTG+1 had J9 for top two and c/c's the whole way. Those are the type of hands I'm talking about.

[Actuary 3]

although frustrating, you don't lose much to these type.they never raise; but when they do, it's an easier fold.When in pos and you have less than Top Pair to a player who calls down with only solid hands, maybe you can check behind. Until you get a good read on what they call with, I would keep firing as you did in the hand and sample.

[Emptyeye 0]

Yeah, looks good. I had a similar thing today...raise from an early position with ATs, flop an ace, bet all the way down encountering no resistance whatsoever....and lose to arguably the most passive suited slick I'd ever seen. >_<My entire session to start 2006 kinda sucked actually, but I'll rebound, mark my words.

[screech 0]

although frustrating, you don't lose much to these type. they never raise; but when they do, it's an easier fold.

Exactly.I don't see what the problem is with players that never raise with their TP hands. They charge you the absolute minimum.

[TheCinciKid 0]

Different situations call for different actions, and reads are very important. The hand you posted is incredibly standard. Incidentally, you should never post results though. In hands like the JJ one you mentioned, I tend to take the line of being aggressive until raised or shown aggression. I often play these by feel though, and they're tough hands to play. The point I would like to make though is that if you're up against a known passive and in position, you can often save money on a hand like the JJ one by checking behind on the river. However, checking behind on the river in the hand you posted would be a huge mistake. Do you see the difference?

[joball33 0]

Thanks for the replies, and I understand the hand I posted is standard. I was trying to figure out if I'm being overly aggressive with marginal hands against calling stations, but after looking at it, that first hand was a bad example. The JJ hand would be closer to the type of situations I'm talking about. I understand that I lose the minimum in these situations, and I guess from now on that's the solace I will take when these hands arise. Sometimes I feel like I'm spewing though.

Different situations call for different actions, and reads are very important. The hand you posted is incredibly standard. Incidentally, you should never post results though.

I know, and I normally don't. I did in this case because I thought it would help clarify the types of hands I was talking about. On the AJ I honestly didn't expect any type of criticism because as you said yourself, it was very standard, and that's why I didn't think it was a big deal to post the results.

[Abbaddabba 0]

You're scared that you spewed one bet on each street?Were you hoping that he'd type to you exactly what it is that he had preflop?They may be bad, but they're still going to be dealt as many winning hands as you are.

[Actuary 3]

They may be bad, but they're still going to be dealt as many winning hands as you are.

good one!But seriously, maybe more maybe less.On one hand they call more preflop and see more hands to the end.On the other hand we c/r and play aggressive and otherwise protect our hands while extracting max value.....I think the stations win more pots but less money.