been taking shots at 30/60

[wrto4556 0]

I went on a 200BB rush at 15/30 and 20/40 in the last two days so I decided to try and run up some money at 30/60. MP is 27/18/3.Party Poker 30/60 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cxPreflop: Hero is UTG+2 with K:spade:, Q:spade:. 2 folds, Hero calls.Flop: (10.50 SB) 2:heart:, K:heart:, A:diamond: (3 players)Hero checks, MP1 bets, MP2 folds, Hero calls.Turn: (6.25 BB) T:spade: (2 players)Hero checks, MP1 bets, Hero calls.River: (8.25 BB) 9:heart: (2 players)Hero checks, MP1 bets, Hero calls.Final Pot: 10.25 BBany suggestions?

[econ_tim 0]

bet the turn??

[Wingmaster05 0]

Seems good to me. I'd imagine he would practically ignore a weak lead on the flop or a c/r.PreflopHe three bets lots of hands that you beat (once the flop comes), but some hands that kill you as well.If we bet the turn, i think the villain raises or folds most of the time, neither of which are optimal for us. We would rather keep the small pair betting instead of folding and AJ and up betting instaed of raising our bet.

[screech 0]

I really don't have much experience playing agianst tough LAGs though. Maybe a river fold is ok since he expects you to call?I don't really like betting the turn because we'll have to call a raise, which is likely to happen. I'd rather c/c, c/c.

[zimmer4141 0]

I personally like c/r the flop, then if he 3-bets, take one off then fold the turn UI. I just don't see what we're beating with middle pair that he will bet all the way to the river. I think checkraising the flop helps us define our hand, because I doubt he's 3-betting without an A.

[wrto4556 0]

I really don't have much experience playing agianst tough LAGs though.  Maybe a river fold is ok since he expects you to call?I don't really like betting the turn because we'll have to call a raise, which is likely to happen.  I'd rather c/c, c/c.

thats the reason i posted

[Smasharoo 0]

I lead this turn. I think the range of hands you're looking at here includes a lot of hands drawing exceptionally thin, and some that you're behind of with outs and very few that yu're in big trouble against.If raisied on the turn, I prbbaly still show it down, but I think we have anough hand to push for value against small and medium pairs and obviously against naked flush draws.good luck.

[screech 0]

I lead this turn.  I think the range of hands you're looking at here includes a lot of hands drawing exceptionally thin, and some that you're behind of with outs and very few that yu're in big trouble against.If raisied on the turn, I prbbaly still show it down, but I think we have anough hand to push for value against small and medium pairs and obviously against naked flush draws.good luck.

Smash, are you worried about villian taking a free card on the turn?If not, what difference does it make who bets?

[Wingmaster05 0]

We don't have worry about flush draws checking for an free card. The only flush draws we expect to see are with the A of which we are already behind.

[Wingmaster05 0]

I personally like c/r the flop, then if he 3-bets, take one off then fold the turn UI.  I just don't see what we're beating with middle pair that he will bet all the way to the river.  I think checkraising the flop helps us define our hand, because I doubt he's 3-betting without an A.

Normallly i would agree Zim but with his agg. factor of 3, im willing to bet he pounds the flop many times without an A or K

[Absolute 0]

god.all these months and you were only playing 30/60?GET OUT OF THE KIDDIE POOL!just kidding thats a lot of money.

[mrdannyg 274]

I went on a 200BB rush at 15/30 and 20/40 in the last two days so I decided to try and run up some money at 30/60. MP is 27/18/3.Party Poker 30/60 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cxPreflop: Hero is UTG+2 with K:spade:, Q:spade:. 2 folds, Hero calls.Flop: (10.50 SB) 2:heart:, K:heart:, A:diamond: (3 players)Hero checks, MP1 bets, MP2 folds, Hero calls.Turn: (6.25 BB) T:spade: (2 players)Hero checks, MP1 bets, Hero calls.River: (8.25 BB) 9:heart: (2 players)Hero checks, MP1 bets, Hero calls.Final Pot: 10.25 BBany suggestions?

looks good - i don't think betting the turn or river is a better option, though i half-typed suggestions for those.good luck at 30/60 - when i came to the site, i was really inspired by your blog. i'm in school and far too risk-adverse (see: scared) to move up limits aggressively, but i continue to look at what you said in your blog at the time as a long-term goal.over/under on time until we're badmouthing wrto in a 50-page thread in general after losing to DN in a series of 500/1000 HU matches:8 months.

[Smasharoo 0]

Smash, are you worried about villian taking a free card on the turn?If not, what difference does it make who bets?I was but I didn't look at the agression stats.I'd play it the same.good luck.

[wrto4556 0]

why cant i fold the river?

[Smasharoo 0]

why cant i fold the river?Well you can if you're certain this isn't 77 or whatever 1 time in 8.good luck.

[wrto4556 0]

almost every hand he would 3 bet is beating mei might be able to find a fold there

[mrdannyg 274]

almost every hand he would 3 bet is beating mei might be able to find a fold there

i don't think you can fold there with his aggression stats. just a bit too high in my mind to fold that, although if they were any lower i'd agree.if you had a couple thousand hands on him and had useful stats on his river tendencies, you might find enough information to fold there.