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[wrto4556]

villian is 52/13/2.3 after 72 hands. It sucks that you cant datamine with the new version.Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cxPreflop: Hero is BB with 8:spade:, 8:diamond:. UTG raises, Hero calls.Flop: (4.66 SB) K:diamond:, 4:diamond:, 5:spade: (2 players)Hero checks, UTG checks.Turn: (2.33 BB) 7:spade: (2 players)what does hero do?

[Shimmering Wang]

Leads?

[wrto4556]

Shimmering Wang said:

Leads?

are you folding to a raise?

[Shimmering Wang]

wrto4556 said:

Shimmering Wang said:

Leads?

are you folding to a raise?

I didn't look at his stats at first. I just saw "can't datamine" and moved on.Now, I think the villian's flop check-back is s-t-r-a-n-g-e. I still bet, though, and I think I'm calling down. Good for him if he raises w/TT or checked behind with AK or KK or something.Wang

[Smasharoo]

Three-bet preflop and then bet when checked to.good luck.

[TJ_Eckleburg]

Smasharoo said:

Three-bet preflop and then bet when checked to.good luck.

Hero is BB and OOP post-flop.I think betting the turn is fine, if raised, then just call down. Is that not okay?

[Smasharoo]

Hero is BB and OOP post-flop. I'm taking the lead here and betting most flops unless my read is that villan is only likely to raise with an overpair from UTG, in which case why am I calling getting 4 to 1 hoping for an 8 to 1 flop?Without reads I assume that I'm better off taking the lead here preflop, if he caps then I have a better idea how to play the rest of the hand.good luck.

[oceansize]

well you lead obviously, and you know if you check and he bets you call, but if you bet and he raises now what? if you bet he may think you have straight and fold but if he has that king he wont and will either see through your crap and call mayhaps even raise and there you go losing two bets instead of one. check maybe he bets, but what are you gonna do fold? course not.so given those are the options, check call would be the move. he may have Ax suited and paired the second or third button on the flop. if he has a king he probably would have represented on the turn. I check call.edit:Just realize what is going on now. we are at the turn. had responded so quickly hadn't realized the 7 was the turn card. well in this case,lead out with a bet. and go from there.if he's gonna raise it's gonna be representing the King and not a second or third button off the flop and if your style is to keep looking down the river for your set, than do it, otherwise give him the bennie of the doubt and fold to a raise on the turn. if he just calls than you have to see what the river brings.

[screech]

I don't mind the call pf at all. I do this a lot with the intention of c/ring most flops, which sure was your plan here.When I guy with these stats checks behind on this flop, it means he either has a monster, or his dog hit the check button. I think this player will rarely check behind because he's afraid you have him beat.I would check this turn, and I really want to fold to a bet. I'd probably call though and folding the river UI. This is better then betting the turn IMO, because we get to see the next card. The only thing betting does is give us peice of mind. Check/folding this turn best, but it's very hard to do.

[Actuary]

Screech:you're calling the turn bet and folding river UI ???assuming 6 outs tops3.33:1Either you are good enough to call both or you should fold turnright?

[Actuary]

dbl posting

[screech]

Actuary said:

Screech:you're calling the turn bet and folding river UI ???assuming 6 outs tops3.33:1Either you are good enough to call both or you should fold turnright?

That's why I think check/folding is best. But if we want to put a bet in on the turn, check/call is better because we're almost always getting raised if we bet. I think he has a very strong hand here almost all the time. On average, I would think we're drawing to 5 outs. I don't want to fall for his trick, and even if it's not a trick, who cares. Pot is tiny.