potoddsdonk 0 Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 Pokerstars 10+1 tourney..So im shortstacked. I pick up AKo in the small blind and see a UTG 3X raise, a min reraise and a quick call by another. It looks to me like im way behind, but im also shortstacked. My thoughts are the min reraise was saying GO ALL IN, and the quick call by another signaled yet another big hand. Easy call or easy laydown?*********** # 88 **************PokerStars Game #3458103316: Tournament #17143215, Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2005/12/28 - 04:38:40 (ET)Table '17143215 51' Seat #4 is the buttonSeat 1: timomass (15925 in chips) Seat 2: jcsydney (8020 in chips) Seat 3: Pickles7 (4475 in chips) Seat 4: ariolis30 (3512 in chips) Seat 5: ellizizcute (2142 in chips) Seat 6: Andrew238 (2515 in chips) Seat 7: tito82 (10480 in chips) Seat 8: copene1 (8140 in chips) Seat 9: TRVLNMN (330 in chips) is sitting outellizizcute: posts small blind 100Andrew238: posts big blind 200*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to ellizizcute [Kd Ah]tito82: raises 400 to 600copene1: raises 400 to 1000TRVLNMN: folds timomass: calls 1000jcsydney: folds Pickles7: folds ariolis30: folds ellizizcute: folds Andrew238: folds tito82: calls 400*** FLOP *** [Ks Th Ad]tito82: checks copene1: bets 1000timomass: calls 1000tito82: calls 1000*** TURN *** [Ks Th Ad] [3c]tito82: checks copene1: checks timomass: bets 3000tito82: calls 3000copene1: raises 3140 to 6140 and is all-intimomass: folds tito82: calls 3140ellizizcute said, "BS"*** RIVER *** [Ks Th Ad 3c] [6c]*** SHOW DOWN ***tito82: shows [Qc Ac] (a pair of Aces)copene1: shows [Qd Kc] (a pair of Kings)tito82 collected 21580 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 21580 | Rake 0 Board [Ks Th Ad 3c 6c]Seat 1: timomass folded on the TurnSeat 2: jcsydney folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: Pickles7 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: ariolis30 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 5: ellizizcute (small blind) folded before FlopSeat 6: Andrew238 (big blind) folded before FlopSeat 7: tito82 showed [Qc Ac] and won (21580) with a pair of AcesSeat 8: copene1 showed [Qd Kc] and lost with a pair of KingsSeat 9: TRVLNMN folded before Flop (didn't bet)Timomass later admitted to have QQ on the hand by the way.. need some opinions on this hand please. Link to post Share on other sites
gobears 0 Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 Your M is 7 and you're way behind the other players left in the tourney - I take a shot here and push. You'll probably get at least two callers but at this stage, I'm willing to gamble to triple up. Link to post Share on other sites
zimmer4141 0 Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 Your M is 7 and you're way behind the other players left in the tourney - I take a shot here and push. You'll probably get at least two callers but at this stage, I'm willing to gamble to triple up.Yeah, and you have to remember this is just a $10 tourney and there is no guarantee any of them even has a pp higher than 10s. I say push and take your shot here, and hope to get lucky against a few players. Link to post Share on other sites
Pokerdad2222 0 Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 Your M is 7 and you're way behind the other players left in the tourney - I take a shot here and push. You'll probably get at least two callers but at this stage, I'm willing to gamble to triple up.Agreed. Also, to OP, dont post results till after you get a few responeses. Anyone who might have argued for a fold definitly wont because the results will skew there thinking. But, you have to push here with such a low M. As you can see, many douche's in these tournies vastly overplay hands Link to post Share on other sites
copernicus 0 Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 My "vs good player" response is fold, despite the results, but this is obviously not a good player hand! The re-raise totally threw me, and gagged when I saw it was KQ! The problem vs. good players is that you very often will be up against a pair and another big A, which makes you a 3:1 dog getting 2:1 odds.With an M of 7 the primary goal is first in vigorish, and with two EP raises you dont have it.OBviously the $10 buy in answer is go for it, you just might be a 2:1 favorite GETTING 2:1 odds! Link to post Share on other sites
strategy 4 Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 ellizizcute said, "BS"If you're going to say stuff like this, it's best to turn your chat off before Stars support turns it off for you. It's pretty hard to negotiate a deal in a tournament when your chat has been revoked. Link to post Share on other sites
Bizzle 0 Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 ellizizcute said, "BS"If you're going to say stuff like this, it's best to turn your chat off before Stars support turns it off for you. It's pretty hard to negotiate a deal in a tournament when your chat has been revoked.Stars gives back temp-chat when you make final tables. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 You made a good lay down. Don't let the results skew what the right play was. Without the reraise, an all-in would be appropriate, but with the reraise and the quick call, if you are a good poker player, live to see another day.BTW, the results show, assuming the guy who said he had QQ actually had it, that you only had 4 outs as an Ace and King were already out there. Stay focused on the right play and keep doing the right thing. Link to post Share on other sites
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