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[iggymcfly]

I finally found a stud hand where I actually wasn't sure how to play it. Usually, it seems like the decisions are easier in Stud than Hold' em, but here's one from the early stages of a cheap MTT on Party. (30+3)(Note: I see there's a converter, but I'm not going to go to the trouble of getting the HH emailed, so I guess you'll all just have to suffer.)***** Hand History for Game 3253757510 *****7 Card Stud Trny:18556246 Level:2 Stakes (20/40) - Saturday, December 24, 08:26:44 EDT 2005Table Multi-Table(549665) Table #1 (Real Money)Seat 0 is the buttonTotal number of players : 8 Seat 1: legioneberic ( $1059 )Seat 2: vanwine ( $877 )Seat 3: bhaught ( $647 )Seat 4: da_vid_d ( $1013 )Seat 5: silvergraff ( $1138 )Seat 6: greenleaf111 ( $1480 )Seat 7: merlin7798 ( $716 )Seat 8: jess1950 ( $1070 )Trny:18556246 Level:2Stakes (20/40)legioneberic posts ante [5].vanwine posts ante [5].bhaught posts ante [5].da_vid_d posts ante [5].silvergraff posts ante [5].greenleaf111 posts ante [5].merlin7798 posts ante [5].jess1950 posts ante [5].** Dealing **Dealt to silvergraff [ Td Js Qh ]legioneberic opens.legioneberic bring-ins [10].vanwine folds.bhaught completes [20].da_vid_d folds.silvergraff calls [20].greenleaf111 folds.merlin7798 calls [20].jess1950 folds.legioneberic folds.** Dealing Fourth street **Dealt to silvergraff [ Kh ]bhaught opens.bhaught bets [20].silvergraff calls [20].merlin7798 calls [20].** Dealing Fifth street **Dealt to silvergraff [ 9s ]merlin7798 opens.merlin7798 bets [40].bhaught calls [40].silvergraff raises [80].>You have options at Multi-Table(549666) Table #31 Table!.merlin7798 raises [80].bhaught calls [80].silvergraff raises [80].merlin7798 calls [40].bhaught calls [40].>You have options at Table 67393 Table!.** Dealing Sixth street **Dealt to silvergraff [ 7h ]merlin7798 opens.>You have options at Table 67393 Table!.merlin7798 bets [40].So anyway, what do you do here?Villian is showing [Q :spade:, 2 :diamond:, Q :diamond:, 9 :diamond:], and has just led out on sixth street after I capped with my straight on fifth.Also, there is another player in the hand who has no pair, no draw, and is behind any of my holdings and probably not going to catch up.Do I slow down, and just call, fearing a flush or a boat? Or do I pound the pot, hoping to pick up value from the other player, who is clearly drawing either slim or dead?

[TS Clark]

Hard to say, since the hh doesn't show anything helpful. If you capped on 5th, though, and he bet right back into you with his board, I'd get REAL nervous. Unless you thought the guy was total maniac, in which case I might slow down a little, but wouldn't go into check/call mode. If he seems solid at all, though, I'd probably wuss out and go C/C. I don't play stud tourneys, though, so others might be more helpful on this.

[KowboyKoop]

From what I can gather from the HH, it seems that IF your straight is the best hand on 6th street, then you could be up against either 3 Queens or a flush draw, and IF your straight is not the best hand, you are drawing dead to against a flush/full house. With the way the hand is played by the opponents, I think it is more likely you are drawing dead, and since even when you are ahead you are against a pretty good draw....I'd have to fold this hand...just don't see you winning enough times, despite the size of the pot. I don't think calling down would be a HORRIBLE mistake...but I probably fold. A lot depends on reads though.

[iggymcfly]

Yeah, I decided that I had to slow down too. I figured there was about a 2 in 3 chance that I was up against either a flush or a boat, with a 1 in 3 chance my opponent just had trips.On the bright side though, my board was pretty non-threatening and it really didn't look much like a straight at all, so I think folding would have been way too tight, especially with the other player in there that was basically dead money.As it turned out, I guess I underestimated the donkishness of PP stud players a little bit. The opponent I was worried about held queens up with the flush draw and the other player was drawing dead with just a pair of aces. The queens up hand blanked on the river and I took down a big pot.Of course, I ended up donking off my chips later on by overplaying a hand that I started playing when I accidentally hit the raise button on fourth street, but that's a different story.

[Rocketwadster]

Impossible to give good advice to posts like this, as there is inadequate information provided (ie. our opponents visible cards on all streets). 8)