5 replies to this topic

[gobears]

10+1 FCP - top 3 get 100+8 tickets to stage 2 tourney, 4th gets his $10, 4 players left.Hand #1; Blinds 500/1000; UTG had 10K, Button had 3K, SB had 10K and I in the BB had 10K. UTG folds, Button goes all-in, SB folds and I'm in the BB with 33. Should I call?Hand #2; Blinds 500/1000; UTG had 10K, Button had 10K, SB had 9K, I had 4K and in the BB had 49o. UTG folds, Button calls, SB folds, I jam. No choice there right?

[Bizzle]

gobears said:

10+1 FCP - top 3 get 100+8 tickets to stage 2 tourney, 4th gets his $10, 4 players left.Hand #1; Blinds 500/1000; UTG had 10K, Button had 3K, SB had 10K and I in the BB had 10K. UTG folds, Button goes all-in, SB folds and I'm in the BB with 33. Should I call?

Yes. If you call and win, you win the seat, whereas if you call and lose, you will be down to 7000. Even with the small blind coming, you will have 2 opportunities to steal back from the stack that would be at 6k. This is a low-risk (22% of your stack) high reward (~40% of the time you get the seat) situation.

Quote

Hand #2; Blinds 500/1000; UTG had 10K, Button had 10K, SB had 9K, I had 4K and in the BB had 49o. UTG folds, Button calls, SB folds, I jam. No choice there right?

I would have to know what kind of fold equity you think you had here. If you think it is more than say 60%, then I would push here. If it is less, then I check here, and then jam if I flop a pair, or fold if I don't. 3k is playable-1 steal and you have more chips than you have now.

[Petoria]

I think the call is ok on the first hand, you're about even money in the hand almost everytime against such a short stack and you're getting getter than 2:1. On hand 2, I think I' like taking a flop much better than pushing. Flop a pair then push, or any ragged flop you push. You're opponent has a good enough hand to limp, there's reason enough to believe that he might call for 3k more. With a limp he could be as good as AA and no weaker than JTs. He's getting a decent price too (11:6). He's not in horrible shape if he loses the hand either. The same as you would be by losing hand 1 which is manageable.

[HoosierAlum]

Hand 1, I call, but its close and to be honest I don't know if its correct. Im struggling with satellite bubble play lately.Hand 2, I feel strongly about this one. You should check and jam every flop. It doesnt matter if we flop a pair or not, we just have to hope he missed. Trust me, I know it sucks jamming on a AK8 flop with 9 high, but you have to do it here. Jam every single flop regardless(unless we hit a miracle boat or 2 pair or something). As Petoria said, if he limped he has a hand that is probably strong enough to call you. He is getting a decent price and his limp is pretty much telling me he is going to call if you jam. People will make some marginal preflop calls, but if they whiff the flop, most players dont think about what you could potentially be doing and they just fold.

[copernicus]

Hand 1 I agree...button could have anything here.Hand 2 I call and see the flop. I dont see any reason to stop and go as Hoosier suggests. If you miss the flop totally misses you are at least a 3:1 dog (putting button on a random hand and the flop at one over, one middle and one under is right at 3:1).I would rather take my chances with 3k then almost throw in the towel.

[Petoria]

HoosierAlum said:

Hand 1, I call, but its close and to be honest I don't know if its correct.  Im struggling with satellite bubble play lately.Hand 2, I feel strongly about this one.  You should check and jam every flop.  It doesnt matter if we flop a pair or not, we just have to hope he missed.  Trust me, I know it sucks jamming on a AK8 flop with 9 high, but you have to do it here.  Jam every single flop regardless(unless we hit a miracle boat or 2 pair or something). As Petoria said, if he limped he has a hand that is probably strong enough to call you.  He is getting a decent price and his limp is pretty much telling me he is going to call if you jam.  People will make some marginal preflop calls, but if they whiff the flop, most players dont think about what you could potentially be doing and they just fold.

This is a very important point I think.