check raised on the river

[Smiddywap 0]

Having recently sat down at this table, I don't know much about the opponents. I don't know of any hand converter which works with FCP so I'll change the names and make it pretty myself.Texas Hold'em $0.50-$1 (real money), #1,618,093,001 Table Gold Coast, 21 Dec 2005 11:36 PM ET Seat 2: UTG+1 ($18.30 in chips) Seat 3: anonymous1 ($24.65 in chips) Seat 5: anonymous2 ($18.10 in chips) Seat 6: SmiddyFCP ($53.35 in chips) Seat 7: SB ($35.60 in chips) Seat 8: anonymous3 ($19.50 in chips) Seat 9: anonymous4 ($66.55 in chips) HOLE CARDSSmiddyFCP gets [ QS,QH ]ANTES/BLINDSSB posts blind ($0.25), anonymous3 posts blind ($0.50).PRE-FLOPanonymous4 folds, UTG+1 calls $0.50, anonymous1 folds, anonymous2 folds, SmiddyFCP bets $1, SB calls $0.75, anonymous3 folds, UTG+1 calls $0.50.FLOP [board cards 5S,10H,3S ]SB checks, UTG+1 checks, SmiddyFCP bets $0.50, SB calls $0.50, UTG+1 calls $0.50.TURN [board cards 5S,10H,3S,JH ]SB checks, UTG+1 checks, SmiddyFCP bets $1, SB calls $1, UTG+1 folds.RIVER [board cards 5S,10H,3S,JH,9H ]SB checks, SmiddyFCP bets $1, SB bets $2, SmiddyFCP calls $1. My concern is my final call on the river check-raise. Is that a good move against an unknown opponent when the river made both a straight and a flush? How about my initial river bet, given the river card? I don't think I screwed up anywhere else in the hand, but of course if you disagree I'd like to know.

[Actuary 3]

I think the SB is bluffing a missed spade draw or worse pair often enough to make the 10:1 call on the end.So yes, calling c/r is correct.Your rvir bet is close imo.Tx, and worse pairs call. Especially any that had draws down the way and are maknig semi-crying calls here.The draws that came in were BD draws.I like the river bet.sometimes you make two bets when thew bluff c/r you!

[TheCinciKid 0]

Bet the river like it's your job. Make the crying call. You're probably gonna lose, but I think you can probably win enough to make it profitable with the odds you're getting, especially without reads. If you had a read that the villain was especially passive or something, that could make you lean towards folding, but without a read, it's very hard to fold this.

[psujohn 0]

The river card is a scare card because it complete both a str8 and flush draw. Still they're back door draws and it's far more likely that villain didn't hit than that he did. I'm always reluctant to bet these rivers for fear of the check/raise but I think 9 times out of 10 your opponent didn't complete a draw and better than half of those times he'll call your river bet. Once he check/raises I'd says that 9 times out of 10 he DID hit a draw. Very few opponents at this level are capable of a bluff check/raise on the river. Though if they're gonna do it this is a good time with a good scare card. I think it's pretty close about whether to call this or not. If the pot where bigger say 14BB it'd be pretty easy to call. If it were smaller - say 6BB it'd be pretty easy to fold. I think I call here mostly because I think there's still a chance we're good and a tiny bit because I don't want to tell the table they can bluff me on the river.

[Smiddywap 0]

Thanks for the advice, everyone!xoxo,Smiddy

[Actuary 3]

Thanks for the advice, everyone!xoxo,Smiddy

hey, Can we get results!btw, you are one of the best new General Forum posters.Your competition is weak, however, so don't get big headed!

[Smiddywap 0]

Hey, thanks for the love. I picture most of the other people brought in here by the Charter Member program as my evil twins. They post something totally unacceptable by modern society, we do battle, but in the end we're still family and I love em like brothers.Now, the result of this particular hand wasn't the reason I posted it, I was more interested in what should generally be done in this situation since I've seen it before. But since you asked...Despite the river check-raise I still thought I had the hand won until my opponent turned over the painful J9 spades. Some things you just can't defend against in this game, though it still left me considering the upsides of disemboweling myself with a rusty fork.

[Actuary 3]

excellent point about results really don't matter.I rarely ask. Just more curious on this one.put down the fork.