$50 to $1000 on pstars day 16

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The GoalTo turn $50 in my first Pokerstars deposit into $1000.The RulesI'll play only Limit games, primarily Holdem, though I might mix in some O8 or Stud etc. later on.I won't move up in limits without at least 300BB for the new limit. I will post hands that I win and lose and explain my thinking behind how I played them.I'm too lazy to spellcheck. Deal with it.Day 16 Four tabling 500 hands to see if I could get my eys to explode.Four pstars tables, four Party tables, 500 hands at Pstars. I figured I needed to get some hands in so I'm not still at $150 in August. Hopefully I can get 500 or more a day in and get this thing rolling downhill so I can start on the $1000 to $20000 at Pstars project...Some hands:*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Js Jh]Kajunpower: calls $0.25Gittes: folds billybest: folds NuWere: calls $0.25thecandle: raises $0.25 to $0.50bobbybeck: calls $0.50TheIguanaNo1: folds JoeySkins 66 said, "becka - going to 1/2"cajunare: calls $0.40Scoop999: folds Kajunpower: calls $0.25NuWere: calls $0.25Yes raising Jacks PF is correct in likely large multiway pots.It is. Just do it. Raising TT might be too, but I tend not to, that's just me though.*** FLOP *** [4c 2c 4d]JoeySkins 66 leaves the tablecajunare: checks Kajunpower: checks NuWere: checks thecandle: bets $0.25bobbybeck: calls $0.25cajunare: folds Kajunpower: folds NuWere: calls $0.25Obviously bet this flop. *** TURN *** [4c 2c 4d] [6h]NuWere: bets $0.50thecandle: calls $0.50bobbybeck: foldsI'm willing to pay off 35 or 66 or A4 or whatever. *** RIVER *** [4c 2c 4d 6h] [Jd]NuWere: bets $0.50thecandle: raises $0.50 to $1NuWere: calls $0.50*** SHOW DOWN ***thecandle: shows [Js Jh] (a full house, Jacks full of Fours)NuWere: mucks hand thecandle collected $6.25 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $6.50 | Rake $0.25 Board [4c 2c 4d 6h Jd]Seat 1: cajunare (small blind) folded on the FlopSeat 2: Scoop999 (big blind) folded before FlopSeat 3: Kajunpower folded on the FlopSeat 4: Gittes folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 5: billybest folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 6: NuWere mucked [6d Ad]Didn't need it, but it let me get a raise in and pick up another BB. *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Kd Ks]1gcashmoney: calls $0.25pappylee: folds thumper72: folds unimportant: folds runawayusa: folds thecandle: raises $0.25 to $0.50thermos: folds trucker: folds laldaas: folds I W Y: calls $0.251gcashmoney: calls $0.25Obviously raise KK pre-flop.*** FLOP *** [Th Qh Jd]I W Y: checks 1gcashmoney: checks thecandle: bets $0.25I W Y: folds I W Y leaves the table1gcashmoney: raises $0.25 to $0.50thecandle: calls $0.25AK is a little scary here, but I think AQ/AJ/ etc raises here too, not to mention any hand with a K looking for a free card etc.*** TURN *** [Th Qh Jd] [9c]1gcashmoney: bets $0.50thecandle: calls $0.50Probably splitting with a another K at this point. I don't raise because I'm not that intrested in paying off AK and if it's a split I don't get anything back the times it's not AK. The only hands I can raise for value here are things like QJ or QQ or whatnot. *** RIVER *** [Th Qh Jd 9c] [7s]Gambl00r joins the table at seat #4 1gcashmoney: checks thecandle: bets $0.501gcashmoney: raises $0.50 to $1thecandle: calls $0.50*** SHOW DOWN ***1gcashmoney: shows [Qd Kh] (a straight, Nine to King)thecandle: shows [Kd Ks] (a straight, Nine to King)1gcashmoney collected $2.70 from potthecandle collected $2.65 from potTotal pot $5.60 | Rake $0.25 /shrug.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Jc Jd]Azrael: raises $0.25 to $0.50Carbo22: folds Golden_sun: folds Salva135: folds dida4: folds dowhatnow: calls $0.50thecandle: calls $0.50taiga: folds AmishJon: calls $0.25Again, raise JJ per-flop.*** FLOP *** [2s 4h Td]AmishJon: checks Azrael: bets $0.25dowhatnow: calls $0.25thecandle: raises $0.25 to $0.50AmishJon: folds Azrael: folds dowhatnow: folds jerry-777 joins the table at seat #8 thecandle collected $2.85 from potthecandle: doesn't show hand Typical stars players weak tighting it up. I'm posting so many JJ hands because I got it so many times during the session.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Jd Js]trucker: folds I W Y: folds Pemby2: folds jballa22222: calls $0.25thumper72: folds unimportant: folds runawayusa: folds thecandle: raises $0.25 to $0.50thermos: calls $0.25jballa22222: calls $0.25Raise with it, damn it!*** FLOP *** [2s Jc 3c]thecandle: bets $0.25thermos: folds jballa22222: raises $0.25 to $0.50thecandle: raises $0.25 to $0.75jballa22222: calls $0.25Flopping top set and someone raising your bet out is a dream come true.*** TURN *** [2s Jc 3c] [8d]thecandle: bets $0.50jballa22222: raises $0.50 to $1thecandle: raises $0.50 to $1.50jballa22222: calls $0.50I figure it's set over set at this point and he likely has one out.*** RIVER *** [2s Jc 3c 8d] [Th]thecandle: bets $0.50jballa22222: calls $0.50*** SHOW DOWN ***thecandle: shows [Jd Js] (three of a kind, Jacks)jballa22222: mucks hand thecandle collected $6.75 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $7 | Rake $0.25 Board [2s Jc 3c 8d Th]Seat 1: thermos (big blind) folded on the FlopSeat 2: trucker folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: I W Y folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 5: Pemby2 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 6: jballa22222 mucked [7s 7d]Of course it could be a just ludicoursly overplayed 77.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Kc 2c]AmishJon: folds duke76: folds Azrael: folds Carbo22: folds Golden_sun: folds Salva135: calls $0.25dida4: folds dowhatnow: calls $0.25thecandle: calls $0.15taiga: checks I complete with K2s in the SB.*** FLOP *** [5c Jc 3s]thecandle: checks taiga: checks Salva135: bets $0.25dowhatnow: folds thecandle: calls $0.25taiga: folds No real value in a raise here, not in the best position for a free card play with one left to act after me. *** TURN *** [5c Jc 3s] [Kh]thecandle: bets $0.50Salva135: raises $0.50 to $1thecandle: calls $0.50Easy bet out and call. TP and the flush draw still. Not enough value to threee-bet.*** RIVER *** [5c Jc 3s Kh] [7c]thecandle: bets $0.50Salva135: calls $0.50*** SHOW DOWN ***thecandle: shows [Kc 2c] (a flush, King high)Salva135: mucks hand thecandle collected $4.50 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $4.50 | Rake $0 Board [5c Jc 3s Kh 7c]Seat 1: Golden_sun folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 2: Salva135 mucked [Jd Kd]/shrug.Dealt to thecandle [7d Qd]Salva135: folds pfurious: folds Mc_Dan: calls $0.25jahart60: calls $0.25fishman33: folds notsonot: calls $0.15thecandle: checks Q7s in the BB, can't complain about that.*** FLOP *** [8d 9d 7c]notsonot: checks thecandle: bets $0.25Mc_Dan: folds jahart60: folds notsonot: raises $0.25 to $0.50thecandle: calls $0.25Pair, flush draw, etc. I was sad the other two folded.*** TURN *** [8d 9d 7c] [7s]binsau joins the table at seat #10 notsonot: bets $0.50thecandle: calls $0.50Could raise here, I guess. I didn't.*** RIVER *** [8d 9d 7c 7s] [9s]notsonot: checks thecandle: bets $0.50notsonot: folds thecandle collected $3 from potthecandle: doesn't show hand On a straight or flush draw, I guess. Or A5, who knows. Maybe a good laydown with TJ. *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Qd As]thecandle: raises $0.25 to $0.50Salva135: folds pfurious: folds joseladd: folds tomcataa has returnedMc_Dan: calls $0.50jahart60: folds fishman33: folds notsonot: folds Raise AQ pre-flop. *** FLOP *** [Th 7h Js]thecandle: bets $0.25Mc_Dan: folds joseladd is sitting outthecandle collected $1.35 from potHave to bet this flop heads up.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Ks Qd]cleptoman: folds thecandle: raises $0.25 to $0.50yad4u: folds bugs2029: folds bomblade: folds schnaazz: folds Salva135: folds elleron: folds thecandle collected $0.60 from potthecandle: doesn't show hand Stars tables.Sometimes you steal the blinds and sometimes you get 8 cold calls the next hand on teh same table. I can't figure it out.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Kd As]thecandle: raises $0.25 to $0.50Salva135: folds Chamonyx: calls $0.50tomcataa: folds joseladd: calls $0.50fastchet: calls $0.50Gittes: folds notsonot: folds Raise AK pre-flop if you like money.*** FLOP *** [3c Td Kh]thecandle: bets $0.25Chamonyx: calls $0.25joseladd: calls $0.25fastchet: calls $0.25Good flop for AK.*** TURN *** [3c Td Kh] [5c]thecandle: bets $0.50Chamonyx: calls $0.50joseladd: folds fastchet: calls $0.50Good turn for AK.*** RIVER *** [3c Td Kh 5c] [2s]thecandle: bets $0.50Chamonyx: folds fastchet: folds thecandle collected $4.85 from potthecandle: doesn't show hand Two JQs maybe? I can't figure out what you hang in there with and flod this on the river. /shrug.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Ad Ac]notsonot: folds thecandle: raises $0.25 to $0.50Salva135: folds Chamonyx: folds tomcataa: folds joseladd: folds fastchet: folds Gittes: folds thecandle collected $0.60 from potthecandle: doesn't show hand Next hand, same table.Don't ask me.Here's an example of why to bet the flop against the BB 90% of the time when you limp and it's just the two of you. I fold this to any kind of bet anywhere.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [3c Qd]Salva135: folds joseladd: folds fastchet: calls $0.25Gittes: folds notsonot: folds thecandle: checksFree look at the flop. *** FLOP *** [Jd 5c Kc]thecandle: checks fastchet: checks Free look at the turn.*** TURN *** [Jd 5c Kc] [4d]thecandle: checks fastchet: checksFree look at the river. *** RIVER *** [Jd 5c Kc 4d] [Qs]thecandle: checks fastchet: checks *** SHOW DOWN ***thecandle: shows [3c Qd] (a pair of Queens)fastchet: mucks hand thecandle collected $0.60 from pot/shrug.He had J9o and never bet it. TP heads up against the BB on the flop and he didn't bet it. Don't ask me.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Ts Th]jahart60 leaves the tablenotsonot: folds thecandle: calls $0.25Salva135: folds joseladd: folds iwink: calls $0.25fastchet: folds Gittes: checks Again, eddie miller says to raise TT pre-flop, I tend not to. He's probably right. Maybe I'll give it a shot for the next 100 TT hadns I get and see how it goes or something.*** FLOP *** [6s 3s 4c]Chamonyx joins the table at seat #6 Gittes: checks thecandle: bets $0.25iwink: folds Gittes: folds thecandle collected $0.85 from pot/shrug. Lot of these hands today. Tables pretty tight post-flop on occasion and then wildly loose other times.Dealt to thecandle [2s 2h]tuxedo8: folds jerry-777: folds Azrael: folds Carbo22: folds Golden_sun: calls $0.25Salva135: folds dida4: calls $0.25dowhatnow: folds thecandle: calls $0.15Fredericka: checks I complete with ducks.*** FLOP *** [6s 8c 5c]thecandle: checks Fredericka: checks Golden_sun: checks dida4: checks *** TURN *** [6s 8c 5c] [Ts]thecandle: checks Fredericka: checks Golden_sun: checks dida4: checks *** RIVER *** [6s 8c 5c Ts] [2c]thecandle: checks Fredericka: checks Golden_sun: checks dida4: checks *** SHOW DOWN ***thecandle: shows [2s 2h] (three of a kind, Deuces)Fredericka: mucks hand Golden_sun: mucks hand dida4: mucks hand thecandle collected $1 from potI figured the button had to bet at it here with position, but apparently not. Thanks for all the free cards, guys.Another set of Jacks. Hit a lot of sets today, didn't feel I got paid off as well as I should have with them.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Jh Th]joseladd: folds iwink: folds fastchet: folds jahart60: folds Gittes: folds notsonot: folds thecandle: raises $0.25 to $0.50Salva135: calls $0.40tomcataa: calls $0.25*** FLOP *** [Jd Ts Kc]Salva135: checks tomcataa: checks thecandle: bets $0.25Salva135: calls $0.25tomcataa: folds *** TURN *** [Jd Ts Kc] [5c]Salva135: checks thecandle: bets $0.50Salva135: calls $0.50*** RIVER *** [Jd Ts Kc 5c] [Td]Salva135: checks thecandle: bets $0.50Salva135: folds thecandle collected $3 from potthecandle: doesn't show hand/shrug.Biggest pot of the session:*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Jc Ac]JoeySkins 66: folds TheIguanaNo1: calls $0.25cajunare: folds Kajunpower: checks Gittes: folds billybest: calls $0.25NuWere: folds thecandle: raises $0.25 to $0.50bobbybeck said, "joey"bobbybeck: calls $0.25TheIguanaNo1: calls $0.25Kajunpower: calls $0.25billybest: calls $0.25Raise AJs pre-flop.*** FLOP *** [6c 9d 2c]thecandle: bets $0.25bobbybeck: calls $0.25TheIguanaNo1: calls $0.25Kajunpower: calls $0.25billybest: calls $0.25Bet out when you flop a flush draw.*** TURN *** [6c 9d 2c] [Ah]thecandle: bets $0.50bobbybeck: calls $0.50TheIguanaNo1: raises $0.50 to $1Kajunpower: calls $1billybest: calls $1thecandle: calls $0.50bobbybeck: foldsBet out when you hit TP to go with your flush draw. *** RIVER *** [6c 9d 2c Ah] [5c]thecandle: bets $0.50Scoop999 joins the table at seat #2 TheIguanaNo1: calls $0.50Kajunpower: raises $0.50 to $1JoeySkins 66 said, "wasup becka"billybest has timed outbillybest: folds billybest is sitting outthecandle: raises $0.50 to $1.50billybest has returnedJoeySkins 66 said, "heads up?"TheIguanaNo1: calls $1Kajunpower: calls $0.50Bet out and three-bet the A high flush. If they have 34c, good for them.*** SHOW DOWN ***thecandle: shows [Jc Ac] (a flush, Ace high)TheIguanaNo1: mucks hand Kajunpower: mucks hand bobbybeck said, "your going down"thecandle collected $12.35 from potJoeySkins 66 said, "lol"*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $12.85 | Rake $0.50 Board [6c 9d 2c Ah 5c]Seat 1: cajunare folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: Kajunpower mucked [8s 7d]Seat 4: Gittes folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 5: billybest folded on the RiverSeat 6: NuWere (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 7: thecandle (small blind) showed [Jc Ac] and won ($12.35) with a flush, Ace highSeat 8: bobbybeck (big blind) folded on the TurnSeat 9: JoeySkins 66 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 10: TheIguanaNo1 mucked [9s 9c]Set and a straight to my flush on the river, sometimes life's ok.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Qd Qc]Salva135: folds coops155 leaves the tabledowhatnow: calls $0.25thecandle: raises $0.25 to $0.50taiga: folds AmishJon: folds Beal219: folds Nevilfish: folds Carbo22: calls $0.40Golden_sun: calls $0.25dowhatnow: calls $0.25Raise QQ pre-flop.*** FLOP *** [2h 8d 5s]Carbo22: checks Golden_sun: checks dowhatnow: bets $0.25thecandle: raises $0.25 to $0.50Carbo22: calls $0.50Golden_sun: folds dowhatnow: foldsRaise QQ on this flop. *** TURN *** [2h 8d 5s] [Jh]Carbo22: checks thecandle: bets $0.50Carbo22: calls $0.50Bet on this turn.*** RIVER *** [2h 8d 5s Jh] [3d]Carbo22: checks thecandle: bets $0.50Carbo22: calls $0.50Bet on this river.*** SHOW DOWN ***thecandle: shows [Qd Qc] (a pair of Queens)Carbo22: shows [4h 4s] (a pair of Fours)thecandle collected $5 from potThanks for hanging in there with the pair of 4's buddy.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [As Ah]laldaas: calls $0.25I W Y: folds Poppa6338: folds jccknepper: folds notsonot: folds Smilneyzzz1: folds thecandle: raises $0.25 to $0.50gaboy5: folds laldaas: calls $0.25Boring little AA hand.*** FLOP *** [Kd Qs 4h]thecandle: bets $0.25laldaas: raises $0.25 to $0.50thecandle: calls $0.25I don't three-bet because someone raising with top pair is rare at this limit. It ussually means KQ or Q4 or whatnot.*** TURN *** [Kd Qs 4h] [4s]thecandle: checks laldaas: bets $0.50thecandle: calls $0.50I'm beating KQ now, so I could raise this, but I'm not convinced that 4x is off the table.*** RIVER *** [Kd Qs 4h 4s] [Kh]thecandle: checks laldaas: bets $0.50thecandle: calls $0.50Not beating KQ anymore.Clearly have to call given the size of the pot and hope it's a ludrcously overplayed AQ.*** SHOW DOWN ***laldaas: shows [Ac Qd] (two pair, Kings and Queens)thecandle: shows [As Ah] (two pair, Aces and Kings)thecandle collected $4.25 from potNaturally, it is.You know people are worried about you outplaying them postflop...when this happens.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Ad 3s]crow62135: folds gaboy5: folds laldaas: folds crow62135 leaves the tableI W Y: calls $0.25Poppa6338: folds jccknepper: folds notsonot: folds Smilneyzzz1: folds thecandle: checks *** FLOP *** [5s Td Kh]thecandle: checks I W Y: folds thecandle collected $0.60 from potthecandle: doesn't show hand I laughed.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Ad Kh]jahart60: folds fishman33: folds notsonot: folds thecandle: raises $0.25 to $0.50Millemus: folds pfurious: folds tazangel777: calls $0.50joseladd: folds jccknepper: folds nab123: folds AK heads up.*** FLOP *** [8d 7h Tc]thecandle: bets $0.25tazangel777: calls $0.25Not a bad flop heads up. I tend to think I have the best hand here a lot of the time.*** TURN *** [8d 7h Tc] [8s]thecandle: bets $0.50tazangel777: calls $0.50Here too.*** RIVER *** [8d 7h Tc 8s] [Ah]thecandle: bets $0.50tazangel777: calls $0.50Especially here.** SHOW DOWN ***thecandle: shows [Ad Kh] (two pair, Aces and Eights)tazangel777: mucks hand thecandle collected $3.85 from potThanks for hanging in there with 34o pal.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Qd Jd]Salva135: folds elleron: folds cleptoman: folds Chxmp: folds thecandle: calls $0.25blue_wings11: folds bugs2029: calls $0.25bomblade: folds DestinyBound: checks JQs three to the flop. I'd raise it first in there in a better game.*** FLOP *** [3h 8h 4c]DestinyBound: checks thecandle: checks bugs2029: checksYay for free cards. *** TURN *** [3h 8h 4c] [Qh]DestinyBound: bets $0.50thecandle: calls $0.50Meh. Could be the flush, could be another Q, could be a bet because the flush card hit. I think check/calling it down is +EV most of the time.bugs2029: folds *** RIVER *** [3h 8h 4c Qh] [5s]DestinyBound: bets $0.50thecandle: calls $0.50*** SHOW DOWN ***DestinyBound: shows [Ah 7d] (high card Ace)thecandle: shows [Qd Jd] (a pair of Queens)thecandle collected $2.85 from pot/shrug.Dealt to thecandle [Kh As]DestinyBound: folds Salva135: folds elleron: folds cleptoman: raises $0.25 to $0.50Chxmp: folds thecandle: raises $0.25 to $0.75blue_wings11: calls $0.75bugs2029: folds bomblade: folds cleptoman: calls $0.25*** FLOP *** [9s 4c 3d]cleptoman: checks thecandle: checks blue_wings11: checks Meh, I can never figure out what to do with overcards. If someone thinks of a consistent way to play them, let me know.*** TURN *** [9s 4c 3d] [9h]cleptoman: bets $0.50thecandle: calls $0.50blue_wings11: foldsI can't see someone not betting a 9 on the flop here, so I think I'm probably ahead enough fo the time to call. I imagine all my outs are good as well. I'm getting like 6-7 to 1 to call, I have 6 outs..pretty much have to call unless I think he's got a 9 or a slowplayed FH or something. Which I think is pretty rare. *** RIVER *** [9s 4c 3d 9h] [Kc]cleptoman: checks thecandle: bets $0.50cleptoman: folds thecandle collected $3.60 from pot/shrug*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Ah Ad]Smilneyzzz1: folds thecandle: raises $0.25 to $0.50gary12361: calls $0.50gaboy5: calls $0.25missand: calls $0.50laldaas: folds I W Y: calls $0.50Poppa6338: folds jccknepper: folds notsonot: folds Good thing about 4-tabling is that you get to see a lot of hands and AA pretty frequently.*** FLOP *** [3s 4c 6h]thecandle: bets $0.25gary12361: calls $0.25gaboy5: folds missand: calls $0.25I W Y: folds Could have check raised, but it's not a great flop for people betting out.*** TURN *** [3s 4c 6h] [4s]thecandle: bets $0.50gary12361: raises $0.50 to $1missand: folds thecandle: calls $0.50Not thrilled with the raise, but I don't think I can fold here. *** RIVER *** [3s 4c 6h 4s] [2c]thecandle: checks gary12361: bets $0.50thecandle: calls $0.50*** SHOW DOWN ***gary12361: shows [Jh Js] (two pair, Jacks and Fours)thecandle: shows [Ah Ad] (two pair, Aces and Fours)thecandle collected $6.35 from potMeh.A rare slowplay by me with flopped quads:*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Qd Jd]thecandle: calls $0.25pfurious: calls $0.25tazangel777: calls $0.25joseladd: folds nab123: folds jahart60: folds fishman33: folds notsonot: checks JQs I'll play from UTG in a passive game.*** FLOP *** [Jh Jc Js]notsonot: checks thecandle: checks pfurious: bets $0.25tazangel777: calls $0.25notsonot: folds thecandle: calls $0.25I guess there are better flops for JQ, but only two or three.*** TURN *** [Jh Jc Js] [3c]thecandle: checks pfurious: bets $0.50tazangel777: calls $0.50thecandle: calls $0.50Come on river, show me an ace!*** RIVER *** [Jh Jc Js 3c] [6c]thecandle: checks pfurious: checks tazangel777: checks Planning to CR, obviously. I guess no one had a PP or caught a fh.*** SHOW DOWN ***thecandle: shows [Qd Jd] (four of a kind, Jacks)pfurious: mucks hand tazangel777: mucks hand thecandle collected $3.35 from potOne card quads are fun, but it's hard to drag a big pot with them most of the time.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Ah Qd]notsonot: folds thecandle: raises $0.25 to $0.50Millemus has timed outMillemus: folds Millemus is sitting outpfurious: folds tazangel777: folds joseladd: calls $0.50xogget: folds xogget leaves the tablenab123: folds jahart60: calls $0.40fishman33: folds I raise AQ UTG and it actually cuts down the feild!*** FLOP *** [6s 3c Kd]jahart60: checks thecandle: checks joseladd: checksThe king doesn't make me real happy. *** TURN *** [6s 3c Kd] [As]jahart60: checks thecandle: bets $0.50joseladd: calls $0.50jahart60: foldsThe ace does, though *** RIVER *** [6s 3c Kd As] [Jd]thecandle: bets $0.50joseladd: calls $0.50*** SHOW DOWN ***thecandle: shows [Ah Qd] (a pair of Aces)joseladd: mucks hand thecandle collected $3.75 from pot/meh. He had 99.TT first in on the button:*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Tc Th]carydarling: folds benke: folds Salva135: folds ANTON2727: folds cleptoman: folds Chxmp: folds benke leaves the tablethecandle: raises $0.25 to $0.50blue_wings11: folds bugs2029: calls $0.40DestinyBound joins the table at seat #8 bomblade: folds When I say I tend to not raise TT, I don't mean first in on the buttton, obviously. I can't think of anything I'd play that I wouldn't raise first in on the button.*** FLOP *** [7h Kh 6s]DestinyBound is sitting outbugs2029: checks thecandle: bets $0.25bugs2029: calls $0.25No agression, could be a weak king or some sort of funky draw. IT's the BB, who knows.*** TURN *** [7h Kh 6s] [8d]bugs2029: checks thecandle: bets $0.50bugs2029: calls $0.50I figure I'm still ahead.*** RIVER *** [7h Kh 6s 8d] [Jd]bugs2029: checks thecandle: checksAnother overcard, I figure he's folding with anything that doesn't beat me and might raise with some hands, so I don't value bet here.*** SHOW DOWN ***bugs2029: shows [Qd Ac] (high card Ace)thecandle: shows [Tc Th] (a pair of Tens)thecandle collected $2.75 from potCan't really blame him, I guess.Well, you can, he should have three-bet pre-flop and then bet out. He probably wins the pot that way.Misclick PF: hazzard of 4 tabling.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [9d Ac]joseladd: calls $0.25madsam is sitting outxogget: calls $0.25jahart60: folds fishman33: folds notsonot: folds thecandle: calls $0.25Millemus: folds Quachil: calls $0.15sith_9225: checks I don't play A9 here normally, I litterally hit the wrong button.*** FLOP *** [8c 7c Ah]Quachil: bets $0.25sith_9225: calls $0.25joseladd: calls $0.25xogget: folds thecandle: calls $0.25Well, since we're here...TP and backdoor straight draw is far too good to fold. I dont think a raise cleans up any outs if I'm behind and I don't think I'm ahead that often.*** TURN *** [8c 7c Ah] [Td]Quachil: checks sith_9225: checks joseladd: checks thecandle: bets $0.50Quachil: calls $0.50sith_9225: folds joseladd: foldsHave to bet the OESD and TP here. *** RIVER *** [8c 7c Ah Td] [6h]Quachil: checks thecandle: bets $0.50Quachil: calls $0.50*** SHOW DOWN ***thecandle: shows [9d Ac] (a straight, Six to Ten)Quachil: mucks hand thecandle collected $4.25 from potI'm the guy Stars is rigged for.Dealt to thecandle [Ks As]Smilneyzzz1: folds thecandle: raises $0.25 to $0.50gary12361: folds klane: folds missand: folds The Jezus: folds hansel1: folds jccknepper: folds notsonot: folds buffalomoon joins the table at seat #4 thecandle collected $0.95 from potthecandle: doesn't show hand I pick up the blinds, even with a sit in poster. Again, weirdly schitzophrenic tables.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Kd Jd]joseladd: folds ed fox: calls $0.25jahart60: folds fishman33: folds notsonot: folds thecandle: calls $0.25Millemus: calls $0.25Quachil: folds sith_9225: checks KJs in the CO. I think there's a good argument for raising it, but I tend not to.*** FLOP *** [Qs 3d 2d]sith_9225: checks ed fox: checks thecandle: bets $0.25Millemus: calls $0.25sith_9225: calls $0.25ed fox: folds I bet out with the flush draw.*** TURN *** [Qs 3d 2d] [Kh]sith_9225: checks thecandle: bets $0.50Millemus: folds sith_9225: folds thecandle collected $1.85 from potthecandle: doesn't show handMeh.Win a lot of small pots at Stars just by betting out I find. They're probably mostly good folds by the other people, really, as I tend not to bluff at all at this limit. All the more reason to get money in PF with good hands.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Qh Jc]thecandle: calls $0.25davec51: folds klane: calls $0.25missand: folds The Jezus: checks benke: calls $0.25jccknepper: folds notsonot: folds Smilneyzzz1: checks Loose pf call by me. Don't call JQ UTG.*** FLOP *** [3h 6s 6c]Smilneyzzz1: checks thecandle: checks klane: checks The Jezus: checks benke: checks *** TURN *** [3h 6s 6c] [Kc]Smilneyzzz1: checks thecandle: checks klane: checks The Jezus: checks benke: checks *** RIVER *** [3h 6s 6c Kc] [Qd]Smilneyzzz1: bets $0.50thecandle: calls $0.50klane: folds The Jezus: folds benke: folds *** SHOW DOWN ***Smilneyzzz1: shows [8d Qc] (two pair, Queens and Sixes)thecandle: shows [Qh Jc] (two pair, Queens and Sixes)Smilneyzzz1 collected $1.20 from potUnless the table is this passive....Anyway, had a good 500 hands, picked up $20 and got started towards the $300 .50/$1 move up.ResultsStarting Bankroll: $150Ending Bankroll: $169.48Playtime: 500 handsNet: $20ishBB/100: Around 8.

[TheBob 0]

I noticed in one of your Pocket Jacks hands that you only called a raise pre flop. Do you think it's ever right to three bet jacks pre flop?

[aneurysm 0]

What, you didn't loose any hands Smash? Not that I don't like seeing the winners!

[Vade 0]

That's an awful lot of hands in such a short time, I wish I could do that :)Nice going, and keep up the posts.

[espnnate 0]

turning 50 dollars into a 1000 would be easier if you played for an hour instead of making this post.

[Vade 0]

turning 50 dollars into a 1000 would be easier if you played for an hour instead of making this post.

*Slap*Most of us enjoy these posts.

[dreed 0]

Wow you have a lot of time on your hands, but nothing i wouldnt be doing if I had the chance. Lots of luck.

[Smasharoo 0]

I noticed in one of your Pocket Jacks hands that you only called a raise pre flop. Do you think it's ever right to three bet jacks pre flop?It's probably allways right. I'm not sure why I didn't. I tend to three-bet them.

[Smasharoo 0]

What, you didn't loose any hands Smash? Not that I don't like seeing the winners!I lost a bunch of them. Posting hands where I raise with AK and bet a A83 flop all the way to lose to A3 doesn't seem real usefull. I usually post 50 in a row or whatever, but I decided to just offer the highlights today.

[CoolHandLaw 0]

What, you didn't loose any hands Smash? Not that I don't like seeing the winners!I lost a bunch of them.  Posting hands where I raise with AK and bet a A83 flop all the way to lose to A3 doesn't seem real usefull.  I usually post 50 in a row or whatever, but I decided to just offer the highlights today.

Perhaps some hands that you folded to give some insight onto your reads on others or just through processes in general?

[Smasharoo 0]

Sure, let me find some.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [As Ts]NuWere: folds thecandle: calls $0.25bobbybeck: calls $0.25ThatsCorrect: checks TheIguanaNo1: folds cajunare: folds Scoop999: folds Kajunpower: calls $0.25Gittes: folds billybest: checks ATs UTG+1*** FLOP *** [5h 5s 5c]billybest: checks thecandle: checks bobbybeck: bets $0.25ThatsCorrect: folds Kajunpower: calls $0.25billybest: calls $0.25thecandle: folds I tend not to chase the A for the FH in these situations, pretty easy fold for me.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [9s 9d]thecandle: calls $0.25AmishJon: folds jerry-777: folds Azrael: folds Carbo22: folds Golden_sun: folds Salva135: raises $0.25 to $0.50dida4: folds dowhatnow: calls $0.25thecandle: calls $0.25*** FLOP *** [Jd 7h 2h]dowhatnow: bets $0.25thecandle: folds I limp and then call a raise with 99 in EP, the flop bet is a raise or fold decision, I decide to fold it here. The pot's miniscule.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Ad 3d]dowhatnow: folds thecandle: calls $0.25taiga: folds AmishJon: folds taiga leaves the tablejerry-777: folds Azrael: folds Carbo22: folds Golden_sun: folds Salva135: calls $0.15dida4: checks *** FLOP *** [4d 6s 8h]Salva135: checks dida4: bets $0.25thecandle: folds I call with A3s, nothing happening on the flop, no reason to continue.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Qh 9h]TheIguanaNo1: folds cajunare: folds Scoop999: checks Kajunpower: calls $0.25Gittes: folds billybest: folds NuWere: folds thecandle: calls $0.25bobbybeck: calls $0.15JoeySkins 66: checks *** FLOP *** [9d 4c 4d]bobbybeck: checks JoeySkins 66: bets $0.25Scoop999: folds Kajunpower: folds thecandle: folds I call with Q9s on the button, another raise or fold flop, I decide to fold. Again the pot's not overly large and the bet comes from the BB who's the most likely person to have a 4. My pair of 9's is extremely vulnerable to redraws even if it's best with half the deck or more being overcards or flush cards.I decide to fold.Dealt to thecandle [Th Ts]Gittes: calls $0.25notsonot: folds thecandle: calls $0.25Salva135: folds pfurious: folds tomcataa: folds joseladd: calls $0.25Mc_Dan: calls $0.15jahart60: checks *** FLOP *** [5c 2d As]Mc_Dan: checks jahart60: bets $0.25Gittes: calls $0.25thecandle: folds I call in MP with TT (raising might be better, probably is, but I don't) and let it go with the A on the flop.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Kh Qc]AmishJon: folds Azrael: folds Carbo22: raises $0.25 to $0.50Golden_sun: folds Salva135: folds dida4: folds dowhatnow: folds thecandle: folds taiga: folds Carbo22 collected $0.60 from potCarbo22: shows [Kd Ks] (a pair of Kings)An example of why you fold KQ to a raise, but raise with it if it's not raised when it gets to you.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Jh 9c]thermos: folds trucker: folds laldaas: calls $0.25thecandle said, "my favorite hand"Pemby2: folds pappylee: folds thumper72: folds unimportant: folds Pemby2 leaves the tablerunawayusa: calls $0.15thecandle: checks *** FLOP *** [Kh 7d 9d]runawayusa: checks thecandle: checks laldaas: bets $0.25runawayusa: folds thecandle: folds 1gcashmoney joins the table at seat #5 laldaas collected $0.75 from potlaldaas: doesn't show hand J9 is my favorite hand because I seem to win more than I should with it (I don't really, according to PT, but what does that thing know!!).I don't like it enough to continue with middle pair in a tiny pot though.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Qs 9s]Salva135: folds pfurious: folds tomcataa: calls $0.25joseladd: folds Mc_Dan: folds binsau: calls $0.25jahart60: folds notsonot: folds thecandle: checks *** FLOP *** [3s Ad Qc]thecandle: checks tomcataa: bets $0.25binsau: calls $0.25thecandle: folds Q9s flops middle pair and a backdoor flush draw, but the pot is small, so I let it go.Pot size is the primary driver of me folding much of the time. This is a call or a raise in a bigger pot.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [5s 2s]twydall: calls $0.25TheIguanaNo1: folds cajunare: folds pharaoh77: folds Kajunpower: folds Kajunpower is sitting outCorbomite: folds billybest: calls $0.25NuWere: calls $0.25thecandle: calls $0.15bobbybeck: checks *** FLOP *** [9c 3h 6c]thecandle: checks bobbybeck: checks twydall: checks billybest: checks NuWere: bets $0.25thecandle: folds I comnplete with 52s and aren't intrested in chasing three outs on this flop.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Qs Th]Golden_sun: folds Salva135: folds dida4: raises $0.25 to $0.50dowhatnow: folds thecandle: folds I'm clearly not playing QT for two bets pre-flop.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Kd Jc]thermos said, "lucky"thermos said, "i guess"I W Y has timed outI W Y: folds I W Y is sitting outPemby2: folds thumper72: folds unimportant: folds runawayusa: folds thecandle: calls $0.25thermos: folds trucker: calls $0.15laldaas: checks *** FLOP *** [5h Ts 9c]trucker: bets $0.25laldaas: raises $0.25 to $0.50thecandle: folds In a tougher game I raise this in the CO. Probably better here too, but I didn't.I'm not calling two cold on that flop with a gutshot and overcards because the pot's not bg enough.Getting 3 to 1 to call I want a better shot than 8 adjusted outs. Playing small pots is much diffrent than playing big pots. *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Qh Jc]thermos: folds trucker: calls $0.25I W Y: folds Pemby2: folds jballa22222: checks thumper72: folds unimportant: folds runawayusa: folds thecandle: checks *** FLOP *** [6s Ah 4s]thecandle: checks trucker: bets $0.25jballa22222: calls $0.25thecandle: folds JQ in the BB, nothing happening on the flop.etc.

[Markmadness 0]

I enjoy the read smash, but puts some losses. Hands that you think yu coul dhave played better. peace

[poguemahone68 0]

Hey Smash,Thanks Smash! I think these posts are extremely helpful. However, I don't see much diversity at all in this recent post. I've never seen more passive play by opponents. Also, you caught the goods on the flop or the turn in every one. Will you post some of your losing hands at some point, especially ones where you made an error rather than you playing it correctly and someone just getting lucky? I know I like to concentrate on the mistakes I make and sometimes, I'm not sure what that mistake was. I see you did put in some errors, but ended up draggin the pot anyway, but I'd like to see some where you made the mistake and someone else dragged the pot and you lost money as I think that might help some folks out to see mistakes in balck and white so they can begin to correct their play.Also some hands with some diversity that require you to think a bit would be nice. Like raising KK UTG with 3 callers and an A falls on the flop. It would be interesting to see how you deal with not so straightforward hands.I think most of us would have played the hands you posted the same way you did, especially with those flops and such passive opponents.Anyway, hope I'm not coming off as a jerk.Thanks again,-Pogue

[Smasharoo 0]

This isn't to be an arrogant ass or anything, but I really don't make many mistakes.I ussually try to specifically post hands where I do something stupid.At this limit I'm not making many, if any, read based plays so it's pretty tough to make a mistake. I do things like call a turn raise with AK when I've hit an A on the flop and pay off two pair, but they ussally aren't mistakes given the pot size.I posted a bunch of folds a few posts up.

[Smasharoo 0]

Also some hands with some diversity that require you to think a bit would be nice. Like raising KK UTG with 3 callers and an A falls on the flop.I'd bet it and fold to a raise.

[poguemahone68 0]

This isn't to be an arrogant ass or anything, but I really don't make many mistakes.I ussually try to specifically post hands where I do something stupid.At this limit I'm not making many, if any, read based plays so it's pretty tough to make a mistake.  I do things like call a turn raise with AK when I've hit an A on the flop and pay off two pair, but they ussally aren't mistakes given the pot size.I posted a bunch of folds a few posts up.

I don't think you sound like an arrogant ass at all. You clearly think about what you are doing when playing poker, which leads to making far less mistakes. I was just mentioning the lack of challenge and diversity in the recent post, which I can see was just highlights.I missed the folds post and I'll go read those for sure. Thanks

[JTPHS 0]

I have NEVER seen cards like this... if i get hands like this, i'm the guy who flopped a set of nines like in the one hand.. only to get beat twice, but i don't lose as much as he did. I feel i play the same way... tight and aggressive, but i'll have like 4 bad beats before i pick up ONE of those hands and i won't even come close to getting paid off.How often do you have losing nights like that?

[Smasharoo 0]

I have NEVER seen cards like this... if i get hands like this, i'm the guy who flopped a set of nines like in the one hand.. only to get beat twice, but i don't lose as much as he did.Well, one, keep in mind that I 4 tabled for a couple of hours so you're looking at the highlights of 500 hands. It's not like I got them in three hours of single tabling 150 hands or something.I feel i play the same way... tight and aggressive, but i'll have like 4 bad beats before i pick up ONE of those hands and i won't even come close to getting paid off.How often do you have losing nights like that?4 tabling tends to flatten out short term variance because you get more hands in. Playing this many hands it's less likely you'll finish a session down. I did get slightly more playable hands than ussual out of 500 but not that many. I hit about the right amount of flops and had a few big pots where I got paid off by second best hands that made up the bulk of the win.That's how Holdem works. It takes 4 or 5 bad beats to make up for dragging a 25BB pot.This is why folding in large pots is much worse than the occasional loose call, as opposed to loosely calling in tiny pots which is much more costly long term (because when you're behind 2/3 of times and win a pot that's twice what you put in its bad and when you win a pot that's 5 times what you put in it's good).

[Sykes 0]

You seem way too passive to me. You need to push your hands more.

[NormanHaupt 0]

As always, love reading your stuff. I bet you I can get 50 to 0 before you hit your goal.Back to work

[Briguy 0]

Hey, SmashThe lurkers love you! :)Thanks for taking the time to do this. I've been following your posts since the experiment began, and I've really improved my game. I had been stagnating at about $150 for a couple of weeks because I suffered some bad beats, and lapsed into a ridiculous passive style. I've since regained my senses and gone aggressive when warranted, taking down large pots here and there, and have gone from $150 to $205 in three sessions (4-tabling on $0.25-$0.50, 2 hour sessions or so, with the odd foray into Omaha). I credit my recent good play to this board (you, akishore, a few other posters).One comment, though: I've found that there's little need to slowplay 3 of a kind flops, at these limits, even with large multiway pots. You'll often get two or three people to tag along with 3K flops when you hold the 4th card, because someone at the table will refuse to believe you could get so lucky. Often, someone will hold pockets, or will be chasing the A or the K, and they'll pay you off from the flop right to the river. I realize that this situation doesn't come up very often.Edited to add: Eek! You're at my limit! I'm going to have to be careful with my table selection.

[Ramocita 0]

Thanks Smash for the Insights...But .............................YOU MUST BE THE LUCKIEST GUY I KNOW.... ALL THOSE PREFLOP JJ....... AND NEVER CRACKED...... AMAZING.......

[Bonesy 0]

Simply Smashing.Smash, is there a way to see all the posts of your experiment without going back through the forum posts?Thanks and keep it coming!

[KidKanuck 0]

Simply Smashing.Smash, is there a way to see all the posts of your experiment without going back through the forum posts?Thanks and keep it coming!

when the book comes out of course 8)

[Absolution 0]

I thought I'd give some commentary and possible alternatives as I read (I probably have a more aggressive style, not that it's necessarily better).Hand 1 JJ - I like for the most part. I definitely raise TT and even 99 here. Hard call on the turn. I'd probably keep raising here on that board, but your check made him take another shot at it on the river. This guy was blinded by top pair. Love it. Looks like you have a profitable table.Hand 2 KK - Check-raise is scary on that board, but you have a strong enough hand to continue. I like it. I'm not scared of AK at all here though. I'd raise that turn. The river action pretty much confirms you have a tie. Nice hand.Hand 3 JJ - Early position raiser is a bit scarey. Call is fine in position I think, but so is reraise here to find out where you are and shut out the BB. Nice flop play. He raised it up to let you take it take it away from the others. I'd put him on AK-AQ, but that's a suspect fold for him if he does. Like you said, weak-tight.Hand 4 JJ - Interesting hand. Nice action. Another nice table it seems. Looks like an ego player there. I don't mind his reraise on the flop, but he goes way too far with it against someone like you playing solid poker. I was expecting him to turn over something like Q9c. heh.Hand 5 K2c - Nice and standard. Could have tried the check-raise on the river, but it would probably be about the same EV. In this case it probably would have worked given his two pair.Hand 6 7Qd - Pretty standard. Hand 7 AQo - I like.Hand 8 KQo - No problems raising that from early position on a loose table. Stop trying to figure them out, they don't even know why they do what they do most of the time I think. Maybe nobody had anything SOOTED or an ace this time. Maybe they were on messenger. :)Hand 9 AKo - Good preflop. Good flop. Good turn. All good. Chasing gutshots probably.Hand 10 AAHand 11 Q3o - haha. The guy shouldn't even be in the hand in the first place, especially with that post flop play.Hand 12 TT - definite raise for me preflop, but good raise on the flop.Hand 13 22 - Might as well raise that river, you could get paid off by any ace or lower pair. Hand 14 JTh - All good. Looks like that guy was calling all the way to the river trying to defend his blind.Hand 15 JcAc - I think 'bet when you flop a flush draw' is probably too simplistic, but you also had two overs here and I like it. That's a lot of callers - maybe a check raise to possibly thin the field a bit? Holy misplayed set of 9s by that one guy. Nice pot.Hand 16 QQ - What the heck is he calling with even before the flop? If they had any power of observation they'd know that your raise means strength. Isn't it nice that you can just keep mindlessly raising your big hands and get action? haha.Hand 17 AA - On the turn you can't be scared of 44. That's a little weak in my opinion. If he has it good for him. Nice result. That's when you type 'gh' and add this guy to your buddy list.Hand 18 A3o - Haha, that happens way too often. You'd be out of there to a raise pretty fast I'm thinking.Hand 19 AKo - Yep, probably a value bet on the flop. 34o? You're making that up.Hand 20 QJd - Hmm, I'd raise this preflop.Hand 21 KAo - I like your reraise post flop. His call shows weakness so I would take the lead on the flop.Hand 22 AA - AA plays itself most of the time. Good hand.Hand 23 QJd - Ya, you need a good read on the passive table to limp there, but no big deal. Hard to get value out of flop quads with only one of them in your hand unless someone has a medium-high pair.Hand 24 AQo - Wouldn't hurt to take a stab on the flop.Hand 25 TT - Nicely played. Tough for him since you were aggressive preflop. He could have just released that on the flop and saved some money, or he could have been aggressive like you suggested (even preflop). His calling was the worst option in my opinion on that board.Hand 26 9Ao - Unsuited I'd probably muck as well, but it's not terrible if you can play well post flop against these guys. Suited I might even raise there. Good call on flop. You had backdoor nut flush draw as well - another 1.5 outs. Rigged!Hand 27 AKs - Strange.Hand 28 KJd - Yep, I'd raise with only one limper. They are showing you respect - GASP. Time to start bluffing a bit more.Hand 29 QJo - I was going to say. Bad call, good result.So you're up to around $170 from $50 in around 500 hands? Good work. 8BB/100 is crazy, but short term.