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[Big Larry]

Hello everyone. I began playing live 1,2 no-limit games about a month ago in Atlantic City and am happy to say that I have made money despite being fairly new to the game. I would like to share a hand with you where I had aces cracked last week to hear your opinions on how I played them. This is how the hand played out:I had just sat down at the table and bought in fo $200 in a 1,2 no limit game. My first 5 or 6 hands were rags and I didn't play them. Then while on the button, I looked down to see pocket aces. I have tried to get cute with them before but after getting sucked out on straights and flushes too many times, I almost always play them strong now. How strong depends on my position and the table I am at. Anyway, on this particular hand, someone in early position raised to $7 and 3 people called before the action got around to me. Since there was now $31 in the pot, I raised up to $50. I figure I would be happy to take the pot now and I didn't want anyone tagging along with me except for other high pairs...which is what I was hoping for. Anyway, one guy called the extra $43. The flop came J,6,2 rainbow and he checked to me. I bet $50. He immediately went all in. I had $150 left in chips and he had me covered. I called and he flipped over pocket jacks. Two blanks came up on the turn and the river and I was out of chips.I have replayed the hand in miy mind 100 times and if I would play the hand exactly the same again. I think he was foolish to call a $43 dollar raise when he knew he was beind in the hand. I also had to call his all in given all the circumstances. Does everyone agree? Big Larry

[TheHammer24]

You played correctly pre flop. I probably would have only raised the pot i.e. I think you over bet them giving your hand away early. Not that this made any difference in the long run. Now I'm strictly an online player, and from my understanding the Casino are real loose. I believe you played the correct. I would have probably called his all in too. But everything was pointing to JJ. The only hands you beat is KK QQ and maybe AJ. I doubt anyone would call 43 with AJ. QQ wouldn't have bet all in. So you're either up against KK or JJ. And a check raise with KK is illogical. However, the pot was 174 dollars when you bet. Assuming he had you covered the pot was lying 384:100 or about 3.8:1. So you were probably getting odds to call hoping for KK. His preflop call was poor. The only hand he could have beaten with that big of a raise was AKs, which is at best a coin flip. You got unlucky.

[KDawgCometh]

I think the only ting you did"wrong" was that you gave your hand away preflop, but then again a pot sized bet would've signaled the same thing, his call was bad and he got lucky, happens. Luck to you next time

[Big Larry]

Yes, I assumed he had hit a set of Jacks when he went all in but I couldn't let him bully me out of the pot. As I stated, I was new at the table and it was obvious to everyone I had either aces or Kings. Me laying the hand down there would have been an open invitation for everyone to push me around on subsequent hands. I called hoping he didn't have the jacks but assuming he did. Well, he did and I had to buy another $200 in chips.Thanks for your resopnses Big Larry

[holman3rd]

Big Larry said:

Yes, I assumed he had hit a set of Jacks when he went all in but I couldn't let him bully me out of the pot. As I stated, I was new at the table and it was obvious to everyone I had either aces or Kings. Me laying the hand down there would have been an open invitation for everyone to push me around on subsequent hands. I called hoping he didn't have the jacks but assuming he did. Well, he did and I had to buy another $200 in chips.Thanks for your resopnses                                               Big  Larry

I don't understand how you called if you assumed he had a set of Jacks? You were more than a 9 to 1 dog at that point if that were true. Doesn't sound like he was bullying you out of the pot. Although I don't like his preflop call of your big re-raise (at worst, he should have put you on AK), his post-flop all-in is exactly what he should have done. Now, obviously we don't know much about this player, but unless I have reason to believe he's capable of trying to make a move on me, I'm putting him on a set here. Most players in his position would realize that the only way their all-in is getting called is if they're beat, so they wouldn't go all-in unless they knew that were a heavy favorite. Tough break, though, but it happens. Unfortunately, the sting is a lot bigger in NL.Question: Since you were new to the table, why was it obvious to everyone that you had AA or KK? QQ, JJ and AK were certainly possible for that re-raise (lacking any other info on your play).

[wrto4556]

You played'em good IMO.Today, I was playing .50/1 no limit and bought in with $50, had about $70 at the time. I get AA on the button. A few players limp from EP and one from MP. 5$ in the pot, I raise it to $8. One guy calls. Flop comes QT7, rainbow. The guy go's all in. I think for a long time and call. He flips over K9....and misses his gut-shot. People do weird things. I was worried about QT and 77. Anything else that beats me he would have raised with. Your call was good and so was your raise. The pot was too big to fold for $39 more, that would have been a big mistake.BTW, my over-sized raise got QT to muck pre-flop. :wink: